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Chapter Seven

Scofield References



Daniel 7:1-28 (KJV)


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Daniel 7:2  Daniel spake and said, I saw in my vision by night, and, behold, the four winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea.

great sea

The "sea" in Scripture imagery stands for the populace, the mere unorganized mass of mankind Matthew 13:47; Revelation 13:1.






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Daniel 7:5  And behold another beast, a second, like to a bear, and it raised up itself on one side, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it between the teeth of it: and they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh.

three ribs

A reference to the three-fold dominion of the second empire, Media, Persia, Babylonia.

devour

i.e. Lydia, Babylonia, Egypt, etc.






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Daniel 7:6  After this I beheld, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back of it four wings of a fowl; the beast had also four heads; and dominion was given to it.

leopard

Swiftness of Alexander's conquests.






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Daniel 7:7  After this I saw in the night visions, and behold a fourth beast, dreadful and terrible, and strong exceedingly; and it had great iron teeth: it devoured and brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with the feet of it: and it was diverse from all the beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns.

horns

A horn symbolizes a king. Cf. Revelation 17:12.






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Daniel 7:8  I considered the horns, and, behold, there came up among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first horns plucked up by the roots: and, behold, in this horn were eyes like the eyes of man, and a mouth speaking great things.

little horn

The vision is of the end of Gentile world-dominion. The former Roman empire (the iron kingdom of Daniel 2:33-35,40-44; 7:7 will have ten horns (i.e. kings, Revelation 17:12 corresponding to the ten toes of the image. As Daniel considers this vision of the ten kings, there rises up amongst them a "little horn" (king), who subdues three of the ten kings so completely that the separate identity of their kingdoms is destroyed. Seven kings of the ten are left, and the "little horn." He is the "king of fierce countenance" typified by that other "king of fierce countenance," Antiochus Epiphanes, Daniel 8:23-25 the "prince that shall come" of Daniel 9:26,27 the "king" of Daniel 11:36-45 the "abomination" of ; Daniel 12:11; Matthew 24:15 the "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2:4-8 and the "Beast" of Revelation 13:4-10. See "Beast" ; Daniel 7:8; Revelation 19:20.






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Daniel 7:13  I saw in the night visions, and, behold, one like the Son of man came with the clouds of heaven, and came to the Ancient of days, and they brought him near before him.

and they

This scene is identical with that of Revelation 5:6-10. There the ascription of praise of the "kings and priests" (cf. Daniel 7:18,18, ref. a) ends with the words, "and we shall reign on the earth." Rev. 6. opens the "vexing" of Psalms 2:5 introductory to setting the king on Zion ; Psalms 2:6; Revelation 20:4. The vision Daniel 7:9-14 reverses the order of events as they will be fulfilled. Verse 13 describes the scene in heaven (cf) Revelation 5:6-10 which, in fulfilment, precedes the events which Daniel sees in vision in Daniel 7:9-12. The historic order will be:

(1) The investiture of the Son of Man with the kingdom Daniel 7:13,14; Revelation 5:6-10

(2) the "vexing" of Psalms 2:5, fully described in Matthew 24:21,22 Re 6.-18.

(3) The return of the Son of Man in glory to deliver the "smiting" blow of Daniel 2:45; 7:9-11 Revelation 19:11-21.

(4) The judgement of the nations and the setting up of the kingdom Daniel 7:10,26,27; Matthew 25:31-46; Revelation 20:1-6.






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Daniel 7:14  And there was given him dominion, and glory, and a kingdom, that all people, nations, and languages, should serve him: his dominion is an everlasting dominion, which shall not pass away, and his kingdom that which shall not be destroyed.

him

Daniel 7:13,14 is identical with Revelation 5:1-7 and antedates the fulfilment of Daniel 2:34,35. ; Daniel 7:13,14; Revelation 5:1-7 describe the investiture of the Son of Man and Son of David with the kingdom authority, while Daniel 2:34,35 describes the crushing blow (Armageddon, Revelation 16:14 which destroys Gentile world-power, thus clearing the way for the actual setting up of the kingdom of heaven. ; Daniel 2:34,35; Revelation 19:19-21 are the same event.






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Daniel 7:17  These great beasts, which are four, are four kings, which shall arise out of the earth.

beasts

The monarch vision of Nebuchadnezzar (Dan. 2) covers the same historic order as the beast vision of Daniel, but with this difference: Nebuchadnezzar saw the imposing outward power and splendour of the "times of the Gentiles" Luke 21:24; Revelation 16:19 while Daniel saw the true character of Gentile world-government as rapacious and warlike, established and maintained by force. It is remarkable that the heraldic insignia of the Gentile nations are all beasts or birds of prey.






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Daniel 7:18  But the saints of the most High shall take the kingdom, and possess the kingdom for ever, even for ever and ever.

saints

vs. Daniel 7:18,22,25,27. That church saints will also share in the rule seems clear from ; Acts 16:17; Romans 8:17; 2 Timothy 2:10-12; 1 Peter 2:9; Revelation 1:6; 3:21; 5:10; 20:4-6.






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Daniel 7:19  Then I would know the truth of the fourth beast, which was diverse from all the others, exceeding dreadful, whose teeth were of iron, and his nails of brass; which devoured, brake in pieces, and stamped the residue with his feet;

know the truth of the fourth beast

See note 4, (See Scofield "Daniel 7:17") .






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Daniel 7:26  But the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion, to consume and to destroy it unto the end.

and they shall

The end of Gentile world-power.

(1) In the beast vision of Daniel 7. the fourth beast is declared to be "the fourth kingdom," i.e. the Roman empire, the "iron" kingdom of Dan. 2. The "ten horns" upon the fourth beast (Roman empire), Daniel 7:7 are declared to be "ten kings that shall arise" (Daniel 7:24) answering to the ten toes of the image vision of Dan. 2. The ten kingdoms, covering the regions formerly ruled by Rome, will constitute, therefore, the form in which the fourth or Roman empire will exist when the whole fabric of Gentile world-domination is smitten by the "stone cut out without hands" == Christ ; Daniel 2:44,45; 7:9.

(2) But Daniel sees a "little horn" rise up and subdue three of the ten kings Daniel 7:24-26. His distinguishing mark is hatred of God and of the Saints. He is not to be confounded with the "little horn" of Dan. 8.--a prophecy fulfilled in Antiochus Epiphanes. (See Scofield "Daniel 8:9") . In Rev. 13, additional particulars of the "little horn" of Dan. 7. are given. See Scofield "Revelation 13:1".






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Daniel 7:27  And the kingdom and dominion, and the greatness of the kingdom under the whole heaven, shall be given to the people of the saints of the most High, whose kingdom is an everlasting kingdom, and all dominions shall serve and obey him.

everlasting kingdom

See, 2 Samuel 7:16; Psalms 89:35-37; Daniel 4:3; 7:13,14; Luke 1:31-33.






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909_1; Daniel 7:2, winds of the heaven strove upon the great sea

    The Sea . . .






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909_a; Daniel 6:19, Then the king arose very early




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909_b; Daniel 6:22, My God hath sent his angel




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909_c; Daniel 6:22b, sent his angel, and hath shut the lions' mouth




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909_d; Daniel 6:25, King Darius wrote unto all people, nations, and languages




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909_e; Daniel 6:26, I make a decree, That in every dominion of my kingdom




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909_f; Daniel 7:1, head upon his bed: then he wrote the dream




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909_g; Daniel 7:2, and said, I saw in my vision by night




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909_h; Daniel 7:3, And four great beasts came up from the sea




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909_i; Daniel 7:4, The first was like a lion




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909_j; Daniel 7:4, like a lion, and had eagle's wings




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909_k; Daniel 7:4b, the feet as a man, and a man's heart was given to it




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909_l; Daniel 7:5, and it had three ribs in the mouth of it

    3 Ribs

      A reference to the three-fold dominion of the second empire, Media, Persia, Babylonia.






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909_m; Daniel 7:5b, they said thus unto it, Arise, devour much flesh

    Devour Much Flesh

      i.e., Lydia, Babylonia, Egypt, etc.






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909_n; Daniel 7:6, and lo another, like a leopard, which had upon the back

    Swiftness of Alexander's conquests.







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909_o; Daniel 7:6b, beast had also four heads




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909_p; Daniel 7:7, beasts that were before it; and it had ten horns




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910_a; Daniel 7:8, there came up among them another little horn




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910_b; Daniel 7:9, beheld unto the thrones were cast down

    Placed.







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910_c; Daniel 7:9b, head like pure wool: his throne was like the fiery flame









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910_d; Daniel 7:13, I saw in the night visions




910_2;
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Daniel 7:13, Anciennt of days, and came to the Ancient of days





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910_3; Daniel 7:14, there was given him dominion, and glory




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910_e; Daniel 7:13, I saw in the night visions




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910_1; Daniel 7:8, among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first

    Gentile World-Dominion

      The vision is of the end of Gentile world-dominion.
      The former Roman empire (the iron kingdom of Daniel 2:33-35, 40-44; 7:7) will have ten horns (i.e. kings. Revelation 17:12), corresponding to the ten toes of the image.

      As Daniel considers this vision of the ten kings, there rises up amongst them a "little horn" (king), who subdue three of the ten kings so completely that the separate identity of their kingdom is destroyed.

      Seven kings of the ten are left, and the "little horn." He is the "king of fierce countenance" typified by that other "king of fierce countenance, Antiochus Epiphanes, Daniel 8:23-25; the "prince that shall come" of Daniel 9:26-27; the "king" of Daniel 11:36-45; the "abomination" of Daniel 12:11 and Matthew 24:15 the "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2:4-8, and the "Beast" of Revelation 13;4-10. See "Beasf (Daniel 7:8; Revelaton 19:20).






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910_2; Daniel 7:13a, Ancient of days, and they brought him near




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910_3; Daniel 7:14, And there was given him dominion, and glory




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910_4; Daniel 7:17, These great beasts, which are four, are four kings

    Monarchy

      The monarchy vision of Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 2.) covers the same historic order as the beast vision of Daniel, but with this difference:

        Nebuchadnezzar saw the imposing outward power and splendour of the "times of the Gentiles" (Luke 21:24; Revelation 16:19), while Daniel saw the true character of Gentile world-government as rapacious and warlike, established and maintained by force. It is remarkable that the heraldic insignia of the Gentile nations are all beasts or birds of prey.






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911_1; Daniel 7:26, the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion

    The end of Gentile world-power.

      (1) In the beast vision of Daniel 7. the fourth beast (v. 7) is declared to be "the fourth kingdom," i.e. the Roman empire, the "iron" kingdom of Daniel 2.

        The "ten horns" upon the fourth beast (Roman empire), v. 7, are declared to be "ten kings that shall arise" (v. 24) answering to the ten toes of the image vision of Daniel 2. The ten kingdoms, covering the regions formerly ruled by Rome, will constitute, therefore, the form in which the fourth or Roman empire will exist when the whole fabric of Gentile world-domination is smitten by the "stone cut out without hands" = Christ (Daniel 2:44-45; 7:9).

      (2) But Daniel sees a "little horn" rise up and subdue three of the ten kings (vs. 24-26). His distinguishing mark is hatred of God and of the saints.






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910_d; Daniel 7:13, I saw in the night visions




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910_2; Daniel 7:13, Anciennt of days, and came to the Ancient of days





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910_3; Daniel 7:14, there was given him dominion, and glory




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910_e; Daniel 7:13, I saw in the night visions




910_1;
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Daniel 7:8, among them another little horn, before whom there were three of the first

    Gentile World-Dominion

      The vision is of the end of Gentile world-dominion.
      The former Roman empire (the iron kingdom of Daniel 2:33-35, 40-44; 7:7) will have ten horns (i.e. kings. Revelation 17:12), corresponding to the ten toes of the image.

      As Daniel considers this vision of the ten kings, there rises up amongst them a "little horn" (king), who subdue three of the ten kings so completely that the separate identity of their kingdom is destroyed.

      Seven kings of the ten are left, and the "little horn." He is the "king of fierce countenance" typified by that other "king of fierce countenance, Antiochus Epiphanes, Daniel 8:23-25; the "prince that shall come" of Daniel 9:26-27; the "king" of Daniel 11:36-45; the "abomination" of Daniel 12:11 and Matthew 24:15 the "man of sin" of 2 Thessalonians 2:4-8, and the "Beast" of Revelation 13;4-10. See "Beasf (Daniel 7:8; Revelaton 19:20).






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Daniel 7:13a, Ancient of days, and they brought him near




910_3;
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Daniel 7:14, And there was given him dominion, and glory




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Daniel 7:17, These great beasts, which are four, are four kings

    Monarchy

      The monarchy vision of Nebuchadnezzar (Daniel 2.) covers the same historic order as the beast vision of Daniel, but with this difference:

        Nebuchadnezzar saw the imposing outward power and splendour of the "times of the Gentiles" (Luke 21:24; Revelation 16:19), while Daniel saw the true character of Gentile world-government as rapacious and warlike, established and maintained by force. It is remarkable that the heraldic insignia of the Gentile nations are all beasts or birds of prey.






911_1;
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Daniel 7:26, the judgment shall sit, and they shall take away his dominion

    The end of Gentile world-power.

      (1) In the beast vision of Daniel 7. the fourth beast (v. 7) is declared to be "the fourth kingdom," i.e. the Roman empire, the "iron" kingdom of Daniel 2.

        The "ten horns" upon the fourth beast (Roman empire), v. 7, are declared to be "ten kings that shall arise" (v. 24) answering to the ten toes of the image vision of Daniel 2. The ten kingdoms, covering the regions formerly ruled by Rome, will constitute, therefore, the form in which the fourth or Roman empire will exist when the whole fabric of Gentile world-domination is smitten by the "stone cut out without hands" = Christ (Daniel 2:44-45; 7:9).

      (2) But Daniel sees a "little horn" rise up and subdue three of the ten kings (vs. 24-26). His distinguishing mark is hatred of God and of the saints.






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Daniel 8:1, the reign of king Belshazzar a vision

    Silver & Brass Kingdoms

      The eighth chapter gives details concerning the second and third world-kingdoms: the silver and brass kingdoms of Daniel 2; the bear and leopard kingdoms of Daniel 7, viz., the Medo-Persian and Macedonian kingdoms of history. At the time of this vision (Daniel 8:1) the first monarchy was nearing its end. Belshazzar was the last king of that monarchy.






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Daniel 7:18, But the saints of the most High




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Daniel 7:19, Then I would know the truth




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Daniel 7:20, even of that horn that had eyes




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Daniel 7:22, and judgment was given to the saints of the most High

    Judgments (the seven).

      Joel 3:1-14.
      (2 Samuel 7:14; Revelation 22:12.)

        The truth and certain fulfilling of all the prophetic visions, The Holy Spirit, and the bride, the church, invite, and say, Come.

        The Lord Jesus spake by the angel, solemnly confirming the contents of this book, particularly of this last vision. He is the Lord God faithful and true. Also by his messengers; the holy angels showed them to holy men of God. They are things that must shortly be done; Christ will come quickly, and put all things out of doubt. And by the integrity of that angel who had been the apostle's interpreter. He refused to accept religious worship from John, and reproved him for offering it.

        This presents another testimony against idolatrous worship of saints and angels. God calls every one to witness to the declarations here made. This book, thus kept open, will have effect upon men; the filthy and unjust will be more so, but it will confirm, strengthen, and further sanctify those who are upright with God.

        Never let us think that a dead or disobedient faith will save us, for the First and the Last has declared that those alone are blessed who do his commandments. It is a book that shuts out form heaven all wicked and unrighteous persons, particularly those who love and make lies, therefore cannot itself be a lie. There is no middle place or condition.

        Jesus, who is the Spirit of prophecy, has given his churches this morning-light of prophecy, to assure them of the light of the perfect day approaching. All is confirmed by an open and general invitation to mankind, to come and partake freely of the promises and of the privileges of the gospel.

        The Spirit, by the sacred word, and by convictions and influence in the sinner's conscience, says, Come to Christ for salvation; and the bride, or the whole church, on earth and in heaven, says, Come and share our happiness. Lest any should hesitate, it is added, Let whosoever will, or, is willing, come and take of the water of life freely.

        May every one who hears or reads these words, desire at once to accept the gracious invitation. All are condemned who should dare to corrupt or change the word of God, either by adding to it, or taking from it. (Rev 22:20)






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Daniel 7:24, And the ten horns out of this kingdom




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Daniel 7:24b, and another shall rise after the first




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Daniel 7:25, And he shall speak great words against the most High




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Daniel 7:26, But the judgment shall sit




911_i;
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Daniel 7:27, whose kingdom is an everlastingkingdom




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Daniel 8:1, In the third year of the reignof king Belshazzar

    About B.C. 530.






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Daniel 7:3, before the river a ram which had two horns





Other Notes & Outlines

DANIEL 7

Daniel 7

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The Gospel, the Investigation and Judgment

Investigation and Judgment

Introduction:

Previously we studied a fabulous dream given to King Nebuchadnezzar. In our study of Daniel this lesson, we have another dream, but one that was given directly to Daniel. Just like Nebuchadnezzar last week, Daniel is extremely troubled by his dream - particularly the part about the terrifying carnivore beast with huge iron teeth. Let's keep our eyes open now for danger!


I. The Dream

    A. Read Daniel 7:1.

      Why would Daniel write down his dream?

      (He did not want to be like Nebuchadnezzar, and forget his dream! Seriously, this tells us two things. First, Daniel thought his dream was important. Second, we can have confidence that we have a correct and accurate statement of his dream.)

    B. Read Daniel 7:2-3.

      Imagine yourself standing in this picture. Are you in a storm? What do you think is meant by "the four winds of heaven" which "churn up the great sea?"

      (If you were in a boat, you should head for shore! It seems like a big storm. The four winds of heaven sound like the four directions of the compass.)

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      • What insight do we get about the meaning of the sea?

        (The picture we get from Daniel 7:2-3, it would seem, is that the people of the world are in turmoil, upheaval, and out of these "stormy waters" come four great beasts.)

    C. Read Daniel 7:4-7.

      Have we studied anything in the book of Daniel so far that seems even remotely similar?

      (Yes, previously in Daniel 2 we saw the sweep of history prophesied in the dream of the image. It represented four great kingdoms: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome which arose and fell in succession.)

    D. Let's read through the end of this dream.

      Read Daniel 7:8-14. If this is a statement of the history of the world and final judgment, as I think it is, how do you feel about it?

      (Just like in the dream of Daniel 2, God has a judgment. God and His people win. God triumphs in the history of humans.)

        1. What two activities of God does this dream reveal?

        (Verses 9-10 show that God sets up a judgment in heaven and verses 11-14 show the destruction of earthly powers and the coronation of Jesus ("son of man"-Matthew 17:22) The King James 
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        2. When does the judgment appear to begin?

        (It appears to take place before the end of time when the "little horn" is still around.)



II. The Meaning of the Dream

    A. Let's stop for just a minute.

      What, in general, do Daniel 2 (from the previous study) and Daniel 7 teach us?

      (God is in charge of kings, kingdoms and the sweep of history. There is a universal struggle between good and evil. God has a coming judgment. In the meantime, God partners with faithful humans to reveal the future defeat of evil.)

    B. Read Daniel 7:15-16.

      How does Daniel's reaction to the dream compare to yours? How does it compare to Nebuchadnezzar's reaction last week?

      (Daniel is troubled by the dream. He wants to know what it means.)

        1. Why do you think Daniel is troubled?

        2. Who is this person whom Daniel approaches in verse 16?

        (The last part of Daniel's vision has him observing what is going on in heaven. The reasonable conclusion is that Daniel steps over to a heavenly being and asks for help in interpreting the dream.)

    C. Read Daniel 7:17-18.

      We have this interpretation directly from heaven. What is the interpretation of the four beasts?

      (These are world powers that arise in succession. Thus, we can clearly see that this is the same series of world powers that were revealed in Daniel 2: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece, Rome.)

      • Do you think that Daniel had the same general idea about the meaning of the dream?
        • If so, I ask again why would Daniel be troubled?

      The saints win!

      (Daniel would have no reason to be troubled by what he had known since he was a young man (Daniel 2.) Instead, what troubles Daniel, and what we will spend most of the rest of our time considering, is the new information about the fourth beast.)

    D. Read Daniel 7:19-20.

      What is different about this fourth beast?

      (For one thing it is terrifying. However, all of the beasts seem pretty scary to me. The main difference is the horns. Daniel 7:7 makes the point about being different and specifically notes the horns.)

      • What is special about this one horn?
      • (It seems to be identified with a person. Notice that with the first three beasts, Babylon (Daniel 7:4) is described with "man-like" characteristics. Since we have been studying that Nebuchadnezzar was its most prominent ruler, this seems to be a reference to him. The other beasts, however, come across as world powers without the identity of a prominent person. The horn, like Babylon, but unlike the other beasts, is described with "man-like" traits.)

    E. Read Daniel 7:21-22.

      What else do we learn about this little horn?

      (That it persecutes Christians and is "defeating" them. Its victories over the saints comes to an end with the judgment of God. Compare Daniel 7:8-11.)

    F. Read Daniel 7:23-25."

      The heavenly interpreter says that the horns are ten kings. How does this compare with Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the image?

      (It fits perfectly. No world kingdom dominates after Rome. Instead, the Ramman Empire changes into feet and toes (you probably have ten of them - like the ten horns) that are mixed iron and clay. Thus, we see that after the Roman Empire we have nations that are weak (clay) and strong (iron), but none rule the world. Compare Daniel 2:40-43.)

III. Examination of the "Little Horn"

    A. When does the "little horn" that looks like a man arise?

    (It arises after the break-up of the Roman Empire into the ten kingdoms. Daniel 7:24 says it arises "after" "the ten kings who will come from this [Roman] kingdom.")

    B. According to Daniel 7:25 this little horn tries to change the "set times and laws."

      What do you think that means?

      (Compare Daniel 2:19-21. Changing times and seasons is the prerogative of God. Thus, this horn, with its persecution of the saints, and its claim to God's prerogatives, seems to be a quasi- religious power that claims the authority of God.)

      • When you think of a time that God has set as a law, what comes to mind?
      • (What comes to my mind is Exodus 20:8-11 Listen to 
The King James Audio Bible for This Selection 
 
 Read by Alexander Scourby - the command for Sabbath worship.)

    C. Based on the clues we have so far, what do you think the "little horn" represents?

      (There is disagreement among commentators on this, but I believe the evidence points very clearly to Papal Rome. It arose after Pagan Rome was breaking up, it was different than the other kings in that its claim to religious power was greater than its claim to secular authority. It is identified with a man - Papal Rome is identified with the Pope. Papal Rome has a very sad period during the Middle Ages when it persecuted those who disagreed with it. Two commentaries that I read conclude that the "little horn" is at least Papal Rome.

      *(The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge; A Commentary, Critical and Explanatory, on the Old and New Testaments.)

      • The New Bible Commentary seems to point to Papal Rome, without specifically identifying it.
        • Some of the most prominent religious liberty cases were in the defense of Catholics. We can admire how the Catholic Church stands strong against abortion and other evil. However, we must conclude that these texts point to historical Papal Rome.)

          • . Is it possible that these texts point to a different power?
          • (Bible students differ, but Matthew Henry has a very important insight on this. He points out that prophecies often have more than one fulfillment. One concern of mine is that Daniel 7:25-27 describes a sequence in which the "little horn" is destroyed and the saints rule. This creates a timing issue (timing is discussed next). Perhaps it is possible that while Papal Rome is one fulfillment of this prophecy, there will be another "Horn-King" who will fulfill the prediction of the anti-Christ who will be alive at the Second Coming of Jesus.)

    D. Let's see if we can get a fix on the timing of this "little horn."

    E. Read Daniel 7:26.

    F. Read Daniel 7:27.
      What happens at the end of this judicial session?

      (All the powers of the world are handed over to the saints. God brings in His "everlasting kingdom." This points to the Second Coming of Jesus!)

    G. Here, we have a "map of time" that brings us to the end of the world as we know it.

      Are you encouraged that God is in control? Will you determine to be a part of His Kingdom?

IV. Next: Daniel 8.




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Rome and Antiochus

Daniel 7 & 8

The Gospel, the Investigation and Judgment

Introduction:

How important are opinion polls? If you agree with the majority, it gives you some comfort that you are right and the rest of the world is basically "right thinking." On the other hand, if you are in the minority you think, "What is wrong with those people?" I doubt that many people who have formed a strong opinion on a subject are swayed by opinion polls showing that the majority disagree. This lesson we are going to be in the minority: we are studying and arguing what is a minority position today on Daniel 7 and 8.

I. Daniel 7 and the "Little Horn"

    A. In a previous study we considered the beasts of Daniel 7

    (Daniel 7:4-7, Lesson 4), Did the beasts seem similar to anything we had previously seen in the book of Daniel?

    (Yes. In Daniel 2 we saw the sweep of history prophesied in the dream of the image. It represented four great kingdoms: Babylon, Medo-Persia, Greece and Rome which arose and fell in succession. We thought the beasts of Daniel 7 represented the same world empires we saw in Daniel 2.)

      1. Read through the end of this dream. Read Daniel 7:8-14. If this is a statement of the history of the world and final judgment, as I think it is, how do you feel about it?

        (Just like in the dream of Daniel 2, God has a judgment. God and His people win. God triumphs in the history of humans.)

      2. What two activities of God does this dream reveal?

        (Verses 9-10 show that God sets up a judgment in heaven and verses 11-14 show the destruction of earthly powers and the coronation of Jesus ("son of man"-Matthew 17:22).)

    • When does the judgment appear to begin?

        (It appears to take place before the end of time when the "little horn" is still around.)

    3. What, in general, do the images of Daniel 2 and beasts of Daniel 7 teach us?

      (God is in charge of kings, kingdoms and the sweep of history. There is a universal struggle between good and evil. God has a coming judgment. In the meantime, God partners with faithful humans to reveal the future defeat of evil.)

    4. Read Daniel 7:15-16. What is Daniel's reaction to the dream of the beasts? Do you see here that Daniel is not an "ordinary guy?"

      (Daniel is troubled by the dream. He wants to know what it means, so he asks. He is willing to stop and ask for directions!)

    • Who is this person whom Daniel approaches in verse 16?

        (The last part of Daniel's vision has him observing what is going on in heaven. The reasonable conclusion is that Daniel steps over to a heavenly being and asks for help in interpreting the dream.)

    5. Read Daniel 7:19-20. What is different about this fourth beast?

      (For one thing it is terrifying. However, all of the beasts seem pretty scary to me. The main difference is the horns. Daniel 7:7 makes the point about being different and specifically notes the horns.)

    • What is special about this one horn?

        (It seems to be identified with a person. Notice that with the first three beasts, Babylon (Daniel 7:4) is described with "man-like" characteristics. The horn, like Babylon, is described with "man-like" traits.)

    6. Read Daniel 7:21-22. What else do we learn about this little horn?

      (That it persecutes Christians and is "defeating" them. Its victories over the saints comes to an end with the judgment of God. Compare Daniel 7:8-11.)

    7. Read Daniel 7:23-25. The heavenly interpreter says that the horns are ten kings. How does this compare with Nebuchadnezzar's dream of the image?

      (It fits perfectly. No world kingdom dominates after Rome. Instead, the Roman Empire changes into feet and toes (you probably have ten of them - like the ten horns) that are mixed iron and clay. Thus, we see that after the Roman Empire we have nations that are weak (clay) and strong (iron), but none rule the world. Compare Daniel 2:40-43.)


II. Examination of the "Little Horn" of Daniel 7

    A. When does the "little horn" that looks like a man arise?

      (It arises after the break-up of the Roman Empire into the ten kingdoms. Daniel 7:24 says it arises "after" "the ten kings who will come from this [Roman] kingdom.")

      1. How long is this "little horn" in power?

        (We have two statements about time. It is in power until the time of the heavenly judgment (Daniel 7:8-9, 26) and it is in power "a time, times and half a time." Daniel 7:25.)

      2. The majority opinion is that the "little horn" is a minor Seleucide King named Antiochus Ephiphanes who ruled eleven years from 175-164 B.C.. Antiochus came to power after the death of Alexander the Great at the end of the Empire of Greece.

        (See, Goldstein, Graffiti in the Holy of Holies, p.39-42.)

          Editor's Note: Important MUST READ: Clifford Goldstein's Graffiti in the Holy of Holies REFUTED . . . It would seem that these studies may be heavily weighted in the 7 Day Adventist Doctrines.
          Try the Spirits and see if they are of God! As is often my wont I generally listen to the Old Time Christian Radio on Radio365. The last few evenings something simply didn't sound right. I found myself wondering, --- as I worked on my own Bible Study, --- if the management of Old Christian Radio may have changed. It went on that way for more than a week before I decided "Enough is enough!" I simply didn't like the tone, beat, etc. that was being presented on Radio365. I decided to see if they might have another station that would play the old hymns I love so well. Hymns which I can mouth the words and it plays – all from memories going back to my early childhood. I simply do not care fore the contemporary music we hear so prevalent today. To my surprise when I brought up Radio365 and opened to "My Favorites" it was discovered that somehow a computer glitch had loaded another station. I generally do not look at the Icon for 365 and paid not attention prior to that occasion. I was indeed somewhat embarrassed to know that it too0k me so long to discover the error.

          It is the same way with false teachers, or prophets – one can be drug into a doctrine or teaching unaware of the slight changes and falsities that come one's way. I shall complete this series of studies before I decide if indeed our teacher may be a false prophet! If indeed Bruce Cameron is closely knitted to the 7 Day Adventist Cult. . . if it turns out that he is, I shall have to admit that my mind is slipping and I've been fooled, or made the fool.

          Never mind . . . I've completed a simple search and found the following about my wolf-in-sheeps-clothing:

          Fort Lupton Seventh-Day Adventist Church: Sabbath School Resources

          ... SSNET is operated by lay members of the Seventh-Day Adventist Church who ... GoBible.Org -- a CameronLaw.Com project. Bruce N. Cameron, J.D. ...www.ftluptonsda.org/resources_ss.htm

          So very sad, but so true -- I've been duped! This will be our final lesson from the CameronLaw.com project. If it were even remotely possible, I would change all my Web Links but I've been using the lessons for such a long time that the chore borders on the impossible! I will leave this one posted to show how easily one can be led astray, – as well as a reminder to myself to be more careful in the future. I apologize to anyone who I may have helped down the wrong path for so many months.
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      • Does Antiochus Ephiphanes fit the description of the little horn?

          (No. The timing is all wrong. Antiochus came to power before, not after, the Roman Empire. The Treasury of Scripture Knowledge recites that the ten kingdoms into which the western Roman Empire was divided were set up between 356 A.D and 526 A.D. Thus, Antiochus is more than 500 years too soon to fit this prophecy. In addition, his eleven-year rule hardly seems to stretch to the time of the final judgment.)

    B. If Antiochus is such a bad historical "fit,"

    • Why do most commentators think the little horn is Antiochus? Let's continue on in our study.

III. Daniel 8 and the "Little Horn."

    A. Read Daniel 8:9-12 and Daniel 8:23-25.

      Do you think the horn of Daniel 8 is the same as the little horn of Daniel 7?

        1. To refresh your memory, scan Daniel 7:8; 7:11-12; 7:20-25 to compare the little horns of Daniel 7 and Daniel 8. What reasons would you think they would be the same?

          (They are both horns with human characteristics. They both oppose God. They both oppose God's people. They are both destroyed by God.)

        2. What reasons might you think these two horns are different?

          (The horn of Daniel 8 is described as attacking the sanctuary - whereas this is not mentioned about the horn of Daniel 7.)

    B. What is the timing of the arrival of the little horn of Daniel 8?

      (While the horn of Daniel 7 clearly arises out of (after) the fourth beast (Rome), the horn of Daniel 8 arises out of (after) the goat (Daniel 8:8-9).

    • What does the goat represent? (Read Daniel 8: 21-23. The goat is Greece and the little horn arises from Greece.)

    C. Is the timing wrong for Antiochus to be the horn of Daniel 8:9?

      (The timing of Antiochus fits a lot better in Daniel 8. He came out of the fragmented Grecian Empire (which was the reason he could not be the "little horn" of Daniel 7 - it came out of the fragmented Roman Empire).)

    D. Do you see the basis for the conflict?

    • If the little horns of Daniel 7 and Daniel 8 are the same, the "little horn = Antiochus crowd" arrives at its view by reading their interpretation of Daniel 8 back into the little horn of Daniel 7. The "little horn = papal Rome crowd" (of which I am a part) reads their interpretation of the little horn of Daniel 7 into Daniel 8.) (For an explanation of why I think the "little horn" of Daniel 7 is papal Rome, read Lesson 4 of this series which covers much of this same material.)


IV. Settling the Conflict

    A. If you agree

      . . . agree that the "little horn" is the same power in Daniel 7 and Daniel 8, then what reason do you have for thinking that it is not Antiochus? An argument based simply on the timing question seems difficult to make, because when it comes to timing, their argument seems as good as ours.

    B. Let's review again Daniel 8:9-12.

      Consider the rest of the description of this horn. Does it better match pagan and papal Rome or Antiochus? (The description of the power of this horn meets or exceeds the description of the power of the ram and the goat. For example, the ram is called (Daniel 8:4) "great" and the goat is called (Daniel 8:8) "very great." Most translations (but not the NIV) translate the description of the horn (Daniel 8:9) to be "exceedingly great" (NAS, KJV, NKJV, ASV, RSV). Since the horn is described as being greater than Medo-Persia and Greece, it hardly seems appropriate to conclude the 11 year rule of Antiochus, a minor Seleucid king, is comparable to the Persian and the Greek empires! On the other hand, the Roman empire (in both its pagan and papal phase, is clearly comparable to the Persian and Greek empires.)

      1. Did Rome (Daniel 8:11) bring low the sanctuary? (The Romans destroyed God's temple in 70 A.D.. Psalms 79:1 refers to the first destruction of Jerusalem and the temple as "defiling" the temple.)

      2. Did Rome (Daniel 8:10) reach to heaven, throw part of heaven's citizens to the ground and trample on them?



V. Gabriel on the Little Horn Issue

    A. Read Daniel 8:23-25.

      We now turn to Gabriel's further explanation of the horn part of the dream for Daniel. Who is the Prince of princes referred to in verse 25? (It must be Jesus.)

        1. Did Rome take a stand against Jesus?

        2. How does this fit the reference in Daniel 8:10 to the horn reaching to heaven and trampling part of the starry hosts? (Rome crucified Jesus. I think this fits both the description of trampling heaven's citizens and standing against the Prince of Princes.)

    B. How does the horn end?

      (Daniel 8:25 tells us it is destroyed by something other than human power.)

      • What do you think that means? (The logical conclusion is that it is destroyed by God.)

    C. One can understand the argument

      The argument of those who conclude that the horn power of Daniel 8 is Antiochus Epiphanes. On the other hand, I believe Rome (in both its pagan and papal phases) fits the prophecy better. After struggling through this study, you may be saying "So what, Bruce!? Why does this apparently minor point of prophecy matter?" Next week we will discuss whether it matters and why.



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