----- Original Message ----- From: "Darrin Reese" <darrin_r@msn.com> To: "bob haymaker" <pappy111567@charter.net> Sent: Saturday, April 26, 2003 11:30 PM Subject: Fw: [cerebralpalsynetwork] Fwd: listen to this song > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Stacy" <tater3365@yahoo.com> > To: "Shane Dewees" <wjesus114@yahoo.com> > Sent: Saturday, April 12, 2003 4:16 PM > Subject: [cerebralpalsynetwork] Fwd: listen to this song > > > > > > > > This is an awesome song. I hope you listen to it! > > http://www.andiesisle.com/If-I-Die-Before-You-Wake.html > > Praise Be to God - it has nothing to do with race, > > it has everything to do with grace! > > > > "He paid a debt He didn't owe, > > Because I owed a debt I couldn't pay!" > > > > > > ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> > > Make Money Online Auctions! Make $500.00 or We Will Give You Thirty > Dollars for Trying! > > http://us.click.yahoo.com/yMx78A/fNtFAA/i5gGAA/M5aolB/TM > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> > > > > CPN 2003- http://www.geocities.com/thecpnetwork > > To unsubscribe from group, send email to: > > cerebralpalsynetwork-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com > > > > > > > > Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/

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BevW 04/20/03 A Poem to France Eleven thousand soldiers lay beneath the dirt and stone, All buried on a distant land so far away from home. For just a strip of dismal beach they paid a hero's price, To save a foreign nation they all made the sacrifice. And now the shores of Normandy are lined with blocks of white, Americans who didn't turn from someone else's plight. Eleven thousand reasons for the French to take our side, But in the moment of our need, they chose to run and hide. Chirac said every war means loss ... perhaps for France that's true, For they've lost every battle since the days of Waterloo. With so few soldiers, worth a damn, found in any region, The French became the only Land to need a Foreign Legion. You French all say we're arrogant ... Well, hell, we earned the right-- We saved your sorry nation when you lacked the guts to fight. But now you've made a big mistake, and one that you'll regret; YOU took sides with our ENEMIES, and that ... we won't forget. It wasn't just our citizens you spit on when you turned, But every one of ours, who fell, the day the Towers burned. You spit upon our soldiers, on our pilots and Marines, And now you'll get a little sense of just what payback means. So keep your Paris fashions and your wine and your champagnes, And find some other market that will buy your airo planes. Try finding someone else to wear your French cologne, For you're about to find out what it means to stand ALONE. You see, you need us far more than we ever needed you. America has better friends who know how to be true. I'd rather stand with warriors who have the will and might, Than huddle in the dark with those whose only flag is white. I'll take the Brits, the Aussies, the Israelis and the rest, For when it comes to valor we have seen that they're the BEST. We'll count on one another as we face a moment dire, While you sit on the sideline with a sign "friendship for hire" We'll win this war without you and we'll total up the cost, And take it from your foreign aid, and then you'll feel the loss. And when your nation starts to fall, Frenchie, you can spare us, Just call the Germans for a hand, they know the way to Paris...... .............................. FORWARD THIS ON ... Please. %%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%%% BEST FRIENDS are the siblings God forgot to give us.

----- Message Forwarded on Wed, 30 Apr 2003 18:20:34 -0400 ----- From: "Robert Ray Haymaker Sr." <pappy111567@charter.net> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Subject: Date: Tue, 29 Apr 2003 23:19:27 -0400 "If there are no dogs in Heaven, then when I die I want to go where they went." - Will Rogers "We give dogs time we can spare, space we can spare and love we can spare. And in return, dogs give us their all. It's the best deal man has ever made" - M. Facklam "Dogs love their friends and bite their enemies, quite unlike people, who are incapable of pure love and always have to mix love and hate." - Sigmund Freud "The reason a dog has so many friends is that he wags his tail instead of his tongue." - Anonymous "Dogs need to sniff the ground; it's how they keep abreast of current events. The ground is a giant dog newspaper, containing all kinds of late-breaking dog news items, which, if they are especially urgent, are often continued in the next yard." - Dave Barry "Anybody who doesn't know what soap tastes like never washed a dog." - Franklin P. Jones "If your dog is fat, you aren't getting enough exercise." - Anonymous "I wonder what goes through his mind when he sees us peeing in his water bowl." - Penny Ward Moser "A dog teaches a boy fidelity, perseverance, and to turn around three times before lying down." - Robert Benchley "I wonder if other dogs think poodles are members of a weird religious cult."- Rita Rudner "My dog is worried about the economy because Alpo is up to $3.00 a can. That's almost $21.00 in dog money." - Joe Weinstein "Don't accept your dog's admiration as conclusive evidence that you are wonderful." - Ann Landers "A dog is the only thing on earth that loves you more than he loves himself." - Josh Billings "The average dog is a nicer person than the average person." - Andrew A. Rooney "Ever consider what they must think of us? I mean, here we come back from a grocery store with the most amazing haul -- chicken, pork, half a cow. The must think we're the greatest hunters on earth!" -Anne Tyler "If I have any beliefs about immortality, it is that certain dogs I have known will go to heaven, and very, very few persons." - James Thurber "Women and cats will do as they please, and men and dogs should relax and get used to the idea." - Robert A. Heinlein ...And my personal favorite: "There is no psychiatrist in the world like a puppy licking your face." Ben Williams This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

Did you know it's a sin for a woman to make coffee? Yup, it's in the Bible. It says . . . "Hebrews!" BEST FRIENDS are the siblings God forgot to give us. Associated Images Below

----- Original Message ----- From: "IRENE DAMATO" <irened@prodigy.net> To: "Margaret Rea" <dary@alltel.net>; "Doris Torosian" <torosian@cua.edu>; "Wendy M Torosian" <w_torosian@acs.org>; "Carol Waggoner" <Lynwooly@cobweb.net>; "Jim Kutzli" <jkutzli@surfsouth.com>; "Mary Elaine Law Miller" <marylaw@erols.com>; "Dorothy Hill Flanagan" <DJFWAF@cape.com>; "gayle" <gayle1@wheatstate.com>; "Clyde Kelly" <ckyde4@houston.rr.com>; "Robert Haymaker" <pappy111567@charter.net> Sent: Sunday, May 04, 2003 1:34 PM Subject: Fwd: Fw: The Positive Side Of Life THE POSITIVE SIDE OF LIFE" Living on Earth is expensive, but it does include a free trip around the sun every year. How long a minute is depends on what side of the bathroom door you're on. Birthdays are good for you; the more you have, the longer you live. Happiness comes through doors you didn't even know you left open. Ever notice that the people who are late are often much jollier than the people who have to wait for them? Most of us go to our grave with our music still inside of us. If Wal-Mart is lowering prices every day, how come nothing is free yet? You may be only one person in the world, but you may also be the world to one person. Some mistakes are too much fun to only make once. Don't cry because it's over; smile because it happened. We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors ... but they all exist very nicely in the same box. A truly happy person is one who can enjoy the scenery on a detour. Have an awesome day and know that someone who thinks you're great has thought about you today!.. "And that person was me" ... Please don't keep this message to yourself ..... send it to those who mean so much to you ... "NOW".. This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

In a message dated 05/05/2003 10:55:45 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcraig5@cox.net writes: Where are the great Hymn writers today Bob, Some of the recent ones after say 1960 are good too. It is just that with the old ones the bad ones have long ago disappeared, but with the newer ones the bad ones are still around. Consider too that the period for the "new" ones is maybe 40 years and the range of the old ones is around 400 years. The newer ones are not on my website because they are still copyrighted. Al Return-Path: <ASimmsJr@aol.com> Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by fed1mtai04.cox.net

In a message dated 05/05/2003 11:52:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcraig5@cox.net writes: Onward Christian Soldiers, and others. They are even re-writing the Bible with no reference to man or woman Bob, I wonder what they are going to do about the many stories in the Old Testament that include battle scenes that are supported and in a case or two directed by God. ANd there are MANY stories, beginning with Adam and Eve that just will not work without men and women. I would have to quickly disassociate myself from that church I think. I am a Baptist. A couple of years ago we pulled out of the SBC because of some of the power hungrey leader's treatment of missionaries and women. My church is over 2000 and is one of the oldest Churchs around - consitiuted somewhere around 1780, I think. Al Return-Path: <ASimmsJr@aol.com> Received: from imo-d05.mx.aol.com ([205.188.157.37]) by fed1mtai04.cox.net

INSPIRATION FOR THE DAY PHILIPPIANS 4:13 I can do all things through Christ which strengthens me. The road to success is not straight. There is a curve called Failure, a loop called Confusion, speed bumps called Friends, red lights called Enemies, caution lights called Family. You will have flats called Jobs. But, if you have a spare called Determination, an engine called Perseverance, insurance called Faith, a driver called Jesus, you will make it to a place called Success. Pass it on to 10 people whom you want to see blessed. Don't forget to send it back to the one who sent it to you @@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@@ "The only way to take the sorrow out of death is to take love out of life." Author Unknown Image Below

This is a somber reminder of those who went before you to preserve and defend the freedom that has been forever altered by the actions of terrorists. There are ELEVEN American Cemeteries in France Maintained by the US Government Honoring 66,033 Americans Killed Fighting for the French. Here are some photos that are worth a thousand words. For the first time, AMERICA was seeking help from France. . . but France has turned her back!!! Eleven thousand soldiers lay beneath the dirt and stone, all buried on a distant land so far away from home. For just a strip of dismal beach they paid a hero's price, to save a foreign nation they all made the sacrifice. And now the Shores of Normandy are lined with blocks of white, Americans who didn't turn from someone else's plight. Eleven thousand reasons for the French to take our side, but in the moment of our need, they chose to run and hide. Chirac said every war means loss, perhaps for France that's true, for they've lost every battle since the days of Waterloo. Without a soldier worth a damn to be found in the region, the French became the only land to need a Foreign Legion. You French all say we're arrogant. Well hell, we've earned the right-- We saved your sorry nation when you lacked the guts to fight. But now you've made a big mistake, and one that you'll regret; you took sides with our enemies, and that we won't forget. It wasn't just our citizens you spit on when you turned, but every one of ours who fell the day the towers burned. You spit upon our soldiers, on our pilots and Marines, and now you'll get a little sense of just what payback means. So keep your Paris fashions and your wine and your champagne, and find some other market that will buy your aero planes. And try to find somebody else to wear your French cologne, for you're about to find out what it means to stand alone. You see, you need us far more than we ever needed you. America has better friends who know how to be true. I'd rather stand with warriors who have the will and might, than huddle in the dark with those whose only flag is white. I'll take the Brits, the Aussies, the Israelis and the rest, for when it comes to valor we have seen that they're the best. We'll count on one another as we face a moment dire, while you sit on the sideline with a sign "friendship for hire." We'll win this war without you and we'll total up the cost, and take it from your foreign aid, and then you'll feel the loss. And when your nation starts to fall, well Frenchie, you can spare us, just call the Germans for a hand, they know the way to Paris. Please remember these Dead Americans when you go shopping, as the French seem to have forgotten them. FYI France has every right to disagree with America, but France has moved from simple dissent to active hostility toward America. France's President Chirac warned East European nations that if they sided with the US, France would oppose their membership in the European Union. Recently, William Safire reported in the New York Times that France has been secretly helping to arm Iraq and has been helping Iraq build long range missiles. These same missiles may NOW possibly be used against our own US soldiers. Dominique Villepain, France's UN ambassador, is asking that the USA not be allowed to partake in the rebuilding of Iraq after the war (I guess he knows what countries [or country] would best be suited for the job). Just as France has exercised its right to disagree, all Americans can exercise their right to boycott any countries that do not stand with us. French Products and Companies to Boycott: Air France Air Liquide Airbus(airplanes in commericial use) Alcatel Allegra (allergy medication) Aqualung - including: Spirotechnique, Technisub, US Divers and SeaQuest AXA Advisors Bank of the West (owned by BNP Paribas) Beneteau (boats) BF Goodrich (owned by Michelin) BIC (razors, pens and lighters) Biotherm (cosmetics Black Bush Bollinger (champagne) Car & Driver Magazine Cartier Chanel Chivas Regal (scotch) Christian Dior Club Med (vacations) Culligan (owned by Vivendi) Dannon (yogurt and dairy foods) DKNY Dom Perigonon (champagne) Durand Crystal Elle Magazine Essilor Optical Products Evian Fina (petroleum products) and Fina Oil (billions invested in Iraqi oil fields) First Hawaiian Bank George Magazine Givenchy Glenlivet (scotch) Hennessy (liquor products) Houghton Mifflin (books) Jacobs Creek (owned by Pernod Ricard since 1989) Jameson (whiskey) Jerry Springer (talk show) Krups (coffee and cappuccino makers) Lancome - Le Creuset (cookware) L'Oreal (health and beauty products) Louis Vuitton Marie Claire Martel Cognac Maybelline Mephisto (shoes & clothes) Michelin (tires & auto parts) Mikasa (crystal and glass) Moet (champagne) Motel 6 Motown Records MP3.com Mumms (champagne) Nissan (cars - majority owned by Renault Nivea Normany Butter Parents Magazine Peugeot (automobiles) Pierre Cardin Playstation Magazine ProScan (owned by Thomson Electronics - France) Publicis Group (including Saatchi &Saatachi Advertising) RCA (television &electronics - owned by Thomson Electronics - France) Red Magazine Red Roof Inns (owned by Accor group in France) Renault (automobiles) Roquefort cheese (all Roquefort cheese is made in France) Rowenta (toasters, irons, coffe makers, Royal Canadian Salomon (skis) Sierra Software & Computer Games Smart & Final Sofitel (hotels, owned by Accor group) Sparkletts (water, owned by Danone) Spencer Gifts. Sundance Channel Taylor Made (gold clubs &equipment) Technicolor T-Fal (kitchenware Total Gas Stations UbiSoft (computer games) Uniroyal (tires) Universal Studios (music, movies and amusement parks - owned by Vivendi US Filter Veritas Group Veuve Clicquot Champagne Vittel Vivendi Wild Turkey (bourbon) Woman's Day Magazine Yoplait (The French company Sodiaal owns a 50% stake) Yves Saint Laurent Zodia Inflatable Boats Don't go see any French movies either, and don't rent or buy them. I want to add that I heard on radio that sales of French wine in the states have plumetted to such an extent that the effect on the French wine industry has been catastrophic. Evidently Americans without any organized effort have decided at the personal level to hit the French where it hurts. Marvelleux! Lastly, a French company was awarded a $700 million plus contract to operate the 55 mess halls of our US Marine facilities. Call your congressman and ask that this be rescinded regardless of the cost. This is an absolute insult to our Marines. This boycott has been promoted by www.NewsMax.com and has been frequently mentioned by Bill O'Reilly on the O'Reilly Factor. </textatrea> <br> <p><textarea name="Saved Special Things" cols=90 rows=25> ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 9:53 PM Subject: doing very badly in math Little Tommy (who was Jewish) was doing very badly in math. His parents had tried everything: tutors, mentors, flash cards, special learning centers, in short, everything they could think of. Finally, in a last ditch effort, they took Tommy down and enrolled him in the local Catholic school. After the first day, little Tommy came home with a very serious look on his face. He didn't even kiss his mother hello. Instead, he went straight to his room and started studying. Books and papers were spread out all over the room and little Tommy was hard at work. His mother was amazed. She called him down to dinner and to her shock, the minute he was done he marched back to his room without a word and in no time he was back hitting the books as hard as before. This went on for some time, day after day while the mother tried to understand what made all the difference. Finally, little Tommy brought home his report card. He quietly laid it on the table and went up to his room and hit the books. With great trepidation, his Mom looked at it and to her surprise, little Tommy got an A in math. She could no longer hold her curiosity. She went to his room and said: "Son, what was it? Was it the nuns??" Little Tommy looked at her and shook his head, no. "Well, then", she replied, "was it the books, the discipline, the structure, the uniforms? WHAT was it?" Little Tommy looked at her and said, "Well, on the first day of school, when I saw that guy nailed to the plus sign, I knew they weren't fooling around." "The only way to take the sorrow out of death is to take love out of life." Author Unknown

Bob, I think that you are looking too much for perfection among imperfect men and women. What you are looking for probably does not exist. My suggestion would be to simply find a larger church that does not offend you and then within that group find a smaller group of people who see things somewhat as you do to become closer to. ie a sunday school class. It is not neccessary to agree with everything that people around you believe, at least not in most Baptist Churches. The SBC has become intolerant of this though and that is probably one of the bigger reasons that our large church pulled out of the convention. We now work with the CBF which reflects more the Baptist values of years ago and says that this is what most Baptists believe but does not try to force that on individual members. There is room for diferent interpretations within the same church as long as the basics are the same. Reality is that you have to make your peace with God in your own way and not with any man. Al In a message dated 05/09/2003 6:57:54 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcraig5@cox.net writes: Hi Al: I read this when it came with many recollections . . . I was raised in a Independent Baptist Church -- both fundamental and pre-minillenial in belief and witness. It was a wonderful experience -- one that I shall never forget. That was back in 1955 -- when I left to join the US Navy. When I left the service (while in the Navy I assisted several Chaplains of different faiths) I began attending a little Baptist church (don't know if it was SBC or what) in Portsmouth, VA. We returned later to PA but found the little Baptist church that sat on a hill had grown, and out grown its basic doctrines -- first of which was love. It felt strange to my wife and I and I recon it was all that was needed to discourage us from going anywhere. Later again, we moved back to Virginia and then is when we became members of a SBC Baptist Church, Chesapeake, VA. A very early heart felt calling finally led me to attend South Eastern Baptist Theological Seminary. I then began ministry in a little Baptist Church. The church became what the pastor's faith and belief was -- in the immediate services, that is. The SBC then LEFT me and I went south to the United Methodist Church. I believe they drove me to a depression that was so deep I still haven't completely gotten over it. I have been retired since 1992 -- disability . . . mostly brought on by severe depression. Glenda and I have many times different churches in the area. We have not found "that" church that satisfies . . . We have all but given up trying. Usually, if the church is Independent, they seem cold, legalistic, and calculated in their outreach -- recognition of visitors -- simply not friendly. I guess they have been burnt before by visitors. The United Methodist Church is out of the question. These "holly rollers" as I think of them seem to superficial to us. I recognize that they worst person in the world to satisfy is an inactive minister . . . so I place all the blame of the above mentioned feelings on my own shoulder. I listen habitually to BBN (Bible Broadcasting Network) Radio -- day and night. I work on sermons and post them on my Web Sites. < http://craigpages3.100megsfree5.com/sermons/sermons.htm > and I work on continuing Bible Study. So my lack is not in reading or studying of God's Word, it is my ability to get along with and love my neighbor. That would explain my lack of satisfaction with churches. I am too much of a skeptic -- I too have been burnt and quite severely. I would love to find that small church somewhere . . . however, they want to know how many times a minute you inhale :-). I just want to go and return . . . but, curiosity won't allow that. " . . . Standing In The Need of Prayer!" Warm regards, Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: ASimmsJr@aol.com To: rcraig5@cox.net Sent: Tuesday, May 06, 2003 12:41 AM Subject: Re: Thank You In a message dated 05/05/2003 11:52:30 PM Eastern Daylight Time, rcraig5@cox.net writes: Onward Christian Soldiers, and others. They are even re-writing the Bible with no reference to man or woman Bob, I wonder what they are going to do about the many stories in the Old Testament that include battle scenes that are supported and in a case or two directed by God. ANd there are MANY stories, beginning with Adam and Eve that just will not work without men and women. I would have to quickly disassociate myself from that church I think. I am a Baptist. A couple of years ago we pulled out of the SBC because of some of the power hungrey leader's treatment of missionaries and women. My church is over 2000 and is one of the oldest Churchs around - consitiuted somewhere around 1780, I think. Al Return-Path: <ASimmsJr@aol.com> Received: from imo-r04.mx.aol.com ([152.163.225.100]) by lakemtai09.cox.net

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, May 17, 2003 8:06 AM Subject: Emailing: anatomy_of_a_friend Anatomy of a Friend EYES To see you for your true self and always see the best in you... EARS To always be open to listen and hear what you are really saying! MOUTH To always tell you the truth and talk you through the tough times in life. SHOULDER To offer strength when you need support and to be there when you need one to cry on. ARMS To give you hugs, of course! HANDS To hold when you need someone and to help you get up when you fall. HEART To always hold a place for you inside it... FEET To always walk by your side! Thanks for being a Great Friend!

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Thought U might enjoy this.... The U in JesUs Before U were thought of or time had begun, God even stuck U in the name of His Son. And each time U pray, you'll see it's true U can't spell out JesUs and not include the letter U. U're a pretty big part of His wonderful name, For U, He was born; that's why He came. And His great love for U is the reason He died. It even takes U to spell crUcified. Isn't it thrilling and splendidly grand He rose from the dead, with U in His plan? The stones split away, the gold trUmpet blew, and this word resUrrection is spelled with a U. When JesUs left earth at His upward ascension, He felt there was one thing He just had to mention. "Go into the world and tell them it's true That I love them all - Just like I love U." So many great people are spelled with a U, Don't they have a right to know JesUs too? It all depends now on what U will do, He'd like them to know, But it all starts with U. Will U pass it on. ________________________________________________________________ "I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." From Beverly W. buffalo42@valstar.net To Undisclosed-Recipient Subject: Thought U might enjoy this.... Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:40:35 -0400

Tale with a moral!! This has been around before but I love the moral Young King Arthur was ambushed and imprisoned by the monarch of neighboring kingdom. The monarch could have killed him, but was moved by Arthur's youth and ideals. So the monarch offered Arthur freedom, as long as he could answer a very difficult question. Arthur would have a year to figure out the answer; if, after a year, he still had no answer, he would be put to death. The Question: What Do Women Really Want? Such a question would perplex even the most knowledgeable man,and, to young Arthur, it seemed an impossible query But, since it was better than death, he accepted the monarch's proposition to have an answer by year's end. He returned to his kingdom and began to poll everybody: The princess, the prostitutes, the priests, the wise men, and the court jester. He spoke with everyone, but no one could give him a satisfactory answer. Many people advised him to consult the old witch- only she would know the answer. The price would be high; the witch was famous throughout the kingdom for the exorbitant prices she charged.The last day of the year arrived and Arthur had no alternative but to talk to the witch. She agreed to answer his question, but he'd have to accept her price first: The old witch wanted to marry Gawain, the most noble of the Knights of the Round Table and Arthur's closest friend! Young Arthur was horrified: She was hunchbacked and hideous, had only one tooth, smelled like sewage, made obscene noises, etc. He had never encountered such a repugnant creature. He refused to force his friend to marry her and have to endure such a burden. Gawain, upon learning of the proposal, spoke with Arthur. He told him that nothing was too big a sacrifice. compared to Arthur's life and the preservation of the Round Table. Hence, their wedding was proclaimed and the witch answered Arthur's question thus: What a woman really wants is to be in charge of her own life. Everyone instantly knew that the witch had uttered a great truth and that Arthur's life would be spared. And so it was. The neighboring monarch granted Arthur total freedom. What a wedding Gawain and the witch had! Arthur was torn between relief and anguish. Gawain was proper as always, gentle and courteous. The old witch put her worst manners on display, and generally made everyone very uncomfortable. The honeymoon hour approached. Gawain, steeling himself for a horrific experience, entered the bedroom. But what a sight awaited him! The most beautiful woman he'd ever seen lay before him! The astounded Gawain asked what had happened. The beauty replied that since he had been so kind to her when she'd appeared as a witch, she would henceforth be her horrible, deformed self half the time, and the other half, she would be her beautiful maiden self. Which would he want her to be during the day,and which during the night? What a cruel question! Gawain pondered his predicament. During the day, a beautiful woman to show off to his friends, but at night, in the privacy of his home, an old witch? Or would he prefer having by day a hideous witch, but by night a beautiful woman with whom to enjoy many intimate moments? What would you do? What Gawain chose follows below, but don't read until you've made your own choice. > > > >......... Noble Gawain replied that he would let her choose for herself. Upon hearing this, she announced that she would be beautiful all the time, because he had respected her enough to let her be in charge of her own life. > > > What is the moral of this story? > The moral is: > > If a woman doesn't get her own way, things are going to get ugly "I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly." From Beverly W. buffalo42@valstar.net To Undisclosed-Recipient Subject: Thought U might enjoy this.... Date: Thu, 5 Jun 2003 11:40:35 -0400

----- Original Message ----- From: gstevens To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. ; Richard Styers ; Jeff & Tammy Neff ; H. R. Armentrout Sent: Tuesday, June 17, 2003 5:21 PM Subject: Fw: The Holy Land Gail Stevens ----- Original Message ----- From: James Patrick To: Don Patrick ; Sue Patrick ; Jenny Redmond ; Jerry Robertson ; Gail Stevens ; Cinda Todd ; Brenda Hester ; David Hutchinson III ; Tom/Bonnie Metcalfe ; Beatrice Bash ; TERRY BLEVINS ; Dik Buelow ; Millie Bush ; Peg Crum ; Kathy Dorn ; June Finch ; Kim Fulk Sent: Friday, June 13, 2003 8:51 PM Subject: Fwd: The Holy Land Dave H III <hutchdr333@earthlink.net> wrote: A guy goes on vacation to the Holy Land with his wife and mother-in-law. The mother-in-law dies. They go to an undertaker who explains that they can ship the body home but that it'll cost over $5000, whereas they can bury her in the Holy Land for only$150. The guy says, "We'll ship her home. "The undertaker asks, "Are you sure? That's an awfully big expense and we can do a very nice burial here." The guy says, "Look, 2000 years ago they buried a guy here and three days later he rose from the dead. I just can't take that chance." Jim Patrick

-----Original Message----- From: "skyhawk81g" <skyhawk81g@wcoil.com> Sent: Thursday, June 19, 2003 12:35 AM To: "Billie Carol Wickham" <bcw45680@aol.com>, "Dottie Kohler" <kfry1@woh.rr.com>, "Robert Haymaker" <Pappy_Haymaker_Sr@myfamily.com>, "Charles/Janelle Fox" <CJFoxy46@aol.com>, "Darrel Bishop" <dcbishop@prodigy.net>, "Barbara Armstrong" <grandmaa@peoplepc.com>, "edith adams" <emadams@wcoil.com> Cc: Subject: Fw: time ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan Uncapher (mailto:jan0707@msn.com) To: Gwen Uncapher (mailto:skyhawk81g@wcoil.com) Sent: Wednesday, June 18, 2003 5:52 PM Subject: Fw: time Subject: Time Over the phone, his mother told him, "Mr. Belser died last night. The funeral is Wednesday." Memories flashed through his mind like an old newsreel as he sat quietly remembering his childhood days. "Jack, did you hear me?" "Oh, sorry, Mom. Yes, I heard you. It's been so long since I thought of him. I'm sorry, but I honestly thought he died years ago," Jack said. "Well, he didn't forget you. Every time I saw him he'd ask how you were doing. He'd reminisce about the many days you spent over 'his side of the fence' as he put it," Mom told him. "I loved that old house he lived in," Jack said. "You know, Jack, after your father died, Mr. Belser stepped in to make sure you had a man's influence in your life," she said. "He's the one who taught me carpentry," he said. "I wouldn't be in this business if it weren't for him. He spent a lot of time teaching me things he thought were important...Mom, I'll be there for the funeral," Jack said. As busy as he was, he kept his word. Jack caught the next flight to his hometown. Mr. Belser's funeral was small and uneventful. He had no children of his own, and most of his relatives had passed away. The night before he had to return home, Jack and his Mom stopped by to see the old house next door one more time. Standing in the doorway, Jack paused for a moment. It was like crossing over into another dimension, a leap through space and time. The house was exactly as he remembered. Every step held memories. Every picture, every piece of furniture....Jack stopped suddenly. "What's wrong, Jack?" his Mom asked. "The box is gone," he said "What box? " Mom asked. "There was a small gold box that he kept locked on top of his desk. I must have asked him a thousand times what was inside. All he'd ever tell me was 'the thing I value most,'" Jack said. It was gone. Everything about the house was exactly how Jack remembered it, except for the box. He figured someone from the Belser family had taken it."Now I'll never know what was so valuable to him," Jack said. "I better get some sleep. I have an early flight home, Mom." It had been about two weeks since Mr. Belser died. Returning home from work one day Jack discovered a note in his mailbox. "Signature required on a package. No one at home. Please stop by the main post office within the next three days," the note read. Early the next day Jack retrieved the package. The small box was old and looked like it had been mailed a hundred years ago. The handwriting was difficult to read, but the return address caught his attention. "Mr. Harold Belser" it read. Jack took the box out to his car and ripped open the package. There inside was the gold box and an envelope. Jack's hands shook as he read the note inside. "Upon my death, please forward this box and its contents to Jack Bennett. It's the thing I valued most in my life." A small key was taped to the letter. His heart racing, as tears filling his eyes, Jack carefully unlocked the box. There inside he found a beautiful gold pocket watch. Running his fingers slowly over the finely etched casing, he unlatched the cover. Inside he found these words engraved: "Jack, Thanks for your time! Harold Belser." "The thing he valued most...was...my time." Jack held the watch for a few minutes, then called his office and cleared his appointments for the next two days. "Why?" Janet, his assistant asked. "I need some time to spend with my son," he said. "Oh, by the way, Janet...thanks for your time!" "Life is not measured by the number of breaths we take but by the moments that take our breath away." - Unknown Have a great day. Oh, and thank you for your time. : ) _____________________________________________________________________ Get your own family web site at at www.MyFamily.com!

rrhaymaker 6/5/03 Timmy was a little five year old boy whose Mom loved him very much. Being a worrier, she was concerned about his walking to school when he started Kindergarten. She walked with him the first few days, but he came home one day telling her he did not want her walking him to school every day. He wanted to be like "big boys".He protested so loudly that she had to find another way to handle it. She asked her neighbor Nancy if she would surreptitiously follow her son to school at a distance, but close enough to keep a watch on him. Nancy said that, since she was up early with her toddler anyway, it would be a good way for them to get some exercise so she agreed. The next school day, Nancy and her little girl set out behind Timmy as he walked to school with his friend Ronnie. This went on for a whole week. Timmy's friend noticed that this same lady was following them every day. Finally Ronnie asked Timmy, "Have you noticed that lady following us all week? Do you know her?" Timmy nonchalantly replied, "Yea, I know who she is." Ronnie asked, "Well, who is she?" "That's just Shirley Goodnest an' her little girl Marcy," Timmy said. Ronnie inquired further, "Well, why does she follow us every day like that?" "Well," Timmy explained, "every night Momma makes me say the 23rd Psalm with my prayers cuz she worries about me so much.And in it, the prayer says, 'Shirley Goodnest and Marcy shall follow me all the days of my life.' So, I guess I'll just have to get used to it."

----- Original Message ----- From: Darrel Bishop To: Gwen Uncapher ; Elizabeth Wilson ; robert trimble ; ruddie ; dolores neville ; debbie laveck ; Don J. Gagnier ; Stan & Jan Eggett Sent: Saturday, June 21, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Fw: Points to Heaven ----- Original Message ----- From: hixon1009@aol.com To: hixon1009@aol.com Sent: Friday, June 20, 2003 11:29 PM Subject: Points to Heaven Points to Heaven A man dies and goes to heaven. Of course, St. Peter meets him at the Pearly Gates. St. Peter says, "Here's how it works. You need 100 points to make it into heaven. You tell me all the good things you've done, and I give you a certain number of points for each item, depending on how good it was. When you reach 100 points, you get in." "Okay," the man says. "I was married to the same woman for 50 years and never cheated on her, even in my heart." "That's wonderful," says St. Peter, "that's worth three points!" "Three points?" he says. "Well, I attended church all my life and supported its ministry with my tithe and service." "Terrific!" says St. Peter. "That's certainly worth a point." "One point? I started a soup kitchen in my city and worked in a shelter for homeless veterans." "Fantastic, that's good for two more points," he says. "Two points!" the man cries. "At this rate the only way I get into heaven is by the grace of God." "Bingo, 100 points! Come on in!" This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: skyhawk81g To: Steve Uncapher ; Janet Uncapher ; Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. ; Marilyn Seibert ; Ada Rumple Sent: Monday, June 23, 2003 6:27 PM Subject: Fw: Hello ----- Original Message ----- From: sewlady2@earthlink.net To: LuAnn Friesner Sent: Sunday, June 22, 2003 10:47 PM Subject: Fw: Hello This is a test of the Emergency Friendship System forward it (and to me too I hope) ........ A Friend.... (A)ccepts you as you are (B)elieves in "you" (C)alls you just to say "HI" (D)oesn't give up ! ! on you (E)nvisions the whole of you (even the unfinished parts) (F)orgives your mistakes (G)ives unconditionally (H)elps you (I)nvites you over (J)ust likes being with you (K)eeps you close at heart (L)oves you for who you are (M)akes a difference in your life (N)ever Judges (O)ffers support (P)icks you up (Q)uiets your fears (R)aises your spirits (S)ays nice things about you (T)ells you the truth when you need to hear it (U)nderstands you (V)alues you (W)alks beside you (X)-plains thing you don't understand (Y)ells when you won't listen and (Z)aps you back to reality OK THIS IS A TEST !!!! PASS IT ON TO EVERYONE YOU CONSIDER A FRIEND OR WOULD LIKE TO HAVE AS A FRIEND SEE HOW MANY TIMES YOU GET IT BACK!!

rrhaymaker 06/24/03 A very zealous soul-winning young preacher recently came upon a farmer working in his field. Being concerned about the farmer's soul the preacher asked the man, "Are you laboring in the vineyard of the Lord, my good man? Not even looking at the preacher and continuing his work, the farmer replied, "Naw, these are soybeans." "You don't understand," said the preacher. "Are you a Christian?" "With the same amount of interest as his previous answer the farmer said, "Nope my name is Jones. You must be looking for Jim Christian. He lives a mile south of here." The young determined preacher tried again asking the farmer, "Are you lost?" "Naw! I've lived here all my life," answered the farmer. "Are you prepared for the resurrection?" the frustrated preacher asked. This caught the farmer's attention and he asked, "When is it gonna be?" Thinking he had accomplished something the young preacher replied, "It could be today, tomorrow, or the next day." Taking a handkerchief from his back pocket and wiping his brow, the farmer remarked, "Well, don't mention it to my wife. She don't get out much and she'll wanna go all three days."

rrhaymaker 06/2003 attachments in reverse order THE SANDPIPER BY ROBERT PETERSON She was six years old when I first met her on the beach near where I live. I drive to this beach, a distance of three or four miles, whenever the world begins to close in on me. She was building a sandcastle or something and looked up, her eyes as blue as the sea. "Hello," she said. I answered with a nod, not really in the mood to bother with a small child. "I'm building," she said. "I see that. What is it?" I asked, not really caring. "Oh, I don't know, I just like the feel of sand." That sounds good, I thought, and slipped off my shoes. A sandpiper glided by. "That's a joy," the child said. "It's a what?" "It's a joy. My mama says sandpipers come to bring us joy." The bird went gliding down the beach. Good-bye joy, I muttered to myself, hello pain, and turned to walk on. I was depressed, my life seemed completely out of balance. "What's your name?" She wouldn't give up. "Robert," I answered. "I'm Robert Peterson." "Mine's Wendy... I'm six." "Hi, Wendy." She giggled. "You're funny," she said. In spite of my gloom, I laughed too and walked on. Her musical giggle followed me. "Come again, Mr. P," she called. "We'll have another happy day." After a few days of a group of unruly Boy Scouts, PTA meetings, and an ailing mother. The sun was shining one morning as I took my hands out of the dishwater. I need a sandpiper, I said to myself, gathering up my coat. The ever-changing balm of the seashore awaited me. The breeze was chilly but I strode along, trying to recapture the serenity I needed. "Hello, Mr. P," she said. "Do you want to play?" "What did you have in mind?" I asked, with a twinge of annoyance. "I don't know, you say." "How about charades?" I asked sarcastically. The tinkling laughter burst forth again. "I don't know what that is." "Then let's just walk." Looking at her, I noticed the delicate fairness of her face. "Where do you live?" I asked. "Over there." She pointed toward a row of summer cottages. Strange, I thought, in winter. "Where do you go to school?" "I don't go to school. Mommy says we're on vacation." She chattered little girl talk as we strolled up the beach, but my mind was on other things. When I left for home, Wendy said it had been a happy day. Feeling surprisingly better, I smiled at her and agreed. Three weeks later, I rushed to my beach in a state of near panic. I was in no mood to even greet Wendy. I thought I saw her mother on the porch and felt like demanding she keep her child at home. "Look, if you don't mind," I said crossly when Wendy caught up with me, "I'd rather be alone today." She seemed unusually pale and out of breath. "Why?" she asked. I turned to her and shouted, "Because my mother died!" and thought, My God, why was I saying this to a little child? "Oh," she said quietly, "then this is a bad day." "Yes," I said, "and yesterday and the day before and--oh, go away!" "Did it hurt?" she inquired. "Did what hurt?" I was exasperated with her, with myself. "When she died?" "Of course it hurt!" I snapped, misunderstanding, wrapped up in myself. I strode off. A month or so after that, when I next went to the beach, she wasn't there. Feeling guilty, ashamed and admitting to myself I missed her, I went up to the cottage after my walk and knocked at the door. A drawn looking young woman with honey-colored hair opened the door. "Hello," I said, "I'm Robert Peterson. I missed your little girl today and wondered where she was." "Oh yes, Mr. Peterson, please come in. Wendy spoke of you so much. I'm afraid I allowed her to bother you. If she was a nuisance, please, accept my apologies." "Not at all -- she's a delightful child." I said, suddenly realizing that I meant what I had just said. "Wendy died last week, Mr. Peterson. She had leukemia. Maybe she didn't tell you." Struck dumb, I groped for a chair. I had to catch my breath "She loved this beach so when she asked to come, we couldn't say no. She seemed so much better here and had a lot of what she called happy days. But the last few weeks, she declined rapidly..." Her voice faltered, "She left something for you ... if only I can find it. Could you wait a moment while I look?" I nodded stupidly, my mind racing for something to say to this lovely young woman. She handed me a smeared envelope with "MR. P" printed in bold childish letters. Inside was a drawing in bright crayon hues -- a yellow beach, a blue sea, and a brown bird. Underneath was carefully printed: A SANDPIPER TO BRING YOU JOY. Tears welled up in my eyes and a heart that had almost forgotten to love opened wide. I took Wendy's mother in my arms. "I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry, I'm so sorry," I muttered over and over, and we wept together. The precious little picture is framed now and hangs in my study. Six words -- one for each year of her life -- that speak to me of harmony, courage, and undemanding love. A gift from a child with sea blue eyes and hair the color of sand -- who taught me the gift of love. NOTE: This is a true story sent out by Robert Peterson. It happened over 20 years ago and the incident changed his life forever. It serves as a reminder to all of us that we need to take time to enjoy living and life and each other. The price of hating other human beings is loving oneself less. Life is so complicated, the hustle and bustle of everyday traumas can make us lose focus about what is truly important or what is only a momentary setback or crisis. This week, be sure to give your loved ones an extra hug, and by all means, take a moment...even if it is only ten seconds, to stop and smell the roses. This comes from someone's heart, and is shared with many and now I share it with you. May God Bless everyone that receives this! There are NO coincidences! Everything that happens to us happens for a reason. Never brush aside anyone as insignificant. Who knows what they can teach us? I thought this was worth sending on. rrhaymaker

HOW TO BE SAFE THIS COMING YEAR 1. Avoid riding in automobiles - they are responsible for 20% of all fatal accidents. 2. Do NOT stay home, because 17% of all accidents occur in the home. 3. Avoid walking on streets or sidewalks because 14% of all accidents occur to pedestrians. 4. Avoid travel by air, rail, or water because 16% of all accidents involve these forms of transportation. 5. Of the remaining 33%, 32% of all deaths occur in Hospitals. Above ALL else, avoid hospitals! You will be amazed to learn that only .001% of all deaths occur during worship services in church, and these are usually related to previous physical disorders. Therefore, logic tells us that the safest place to be at any given point in time is at church! PS. Bible study is safe too. Surprisingly the percentage of deaths during Bible study is even less! SO, FOR SAFETY'S SAKE - Attend Church and Read Your Bible ......IT COULD SAVE YOUR LIFE! rrhaymaker 06/26/03

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, June 25, 2003 10:33 AM Subject: Do You Agree? Do You Agree? I was asked to send this on if I agree or delete if I don't. What do you think about this? Forward if U agree, if not, delete It is said that 86% of Americans believe in God. Therefore I have a very hard time understanding why there is such a mess about having "In God We Trust" on our money and having God in the Pledge of Allegiance. Why don't we just tell the 14% to Sit Down and SHUT UP!!! If you agree, pass this on, if not delete. . ... We could learn a lot from crayons: some are sharp, some are pretty, some are dull, some have weird names, and all are different colors ....but they all exist very nicely in the same box. rrhaymaker 06/28/03 Image Below

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rrhaymaker ----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Sunday, June 29, 2003 9:15 PM Subject: You all will love this one!!!! You all will love this one!!!! Image Below

BeverlyW 07/02/03 Dear Friend: Just a line to say I'm living ... That I'm not among the dead, Though I'm getting more forgetful And mixed up in the head. I got used to my arthritis, To my dentures I'm resigned, I can manage my bifocals, But Lord ... how I miss my mind!!! Sometimes I can't remember When I stand at the foot of the stairs, If I must go up for something ... Or if I've just come down from there. I stand before the fridge at times, My poor mind filled with doubt, Have I come to put food away, Or come to take some out? There are times when it is dark out, And with my nightcap on my head, I don't know if I'm retiring ... Or just getting out of bed. So if it's my turn to write you, There's no need for getting sore, I may think that I have written And don't want to be a bore. I do know that I miss you And wish that you were near. And now it's nearly mail time So I must say good bye, my dear. Now I'm standing beside the mail box With a face so very red, Instead of mailing you my letter ... I have opened it instead!!! Author Unknown Have an awesome day, and know that someone who thinks you're great has thought about you today!.. "And that person was me."..... Image Below

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 12:26 AM Subject: Christian Teacher Wins First Amendment Victory Christian Teacher Wins First Amendment Victory By Jim Brown July 8, 2003 (AgapePress) - A South Dakota public school teacher who was discriminated against because of her Christian beliefs has won a major First Amendment victory. Sioux Falls School District policy prohibited teachers from participating in any after-school religious club in the district. However, Florida-based Liberty Counsel challenged the policy on behalf of Barbara Wigg, an elementary school teacher who was barred from teaching at Good News Club meetings held in district facilities. [See Earlier Story] Now a federal court has ruled in Wigg's favor. Attorney Rena Lindevaldsen says the court's ruling recognizes the private rights that many public employees, including teachers, have when they step out of their role as public employees. "What the court did is hold that, with respect to all of the schools other than the one she teaches in, [district officials] have to allow her -- and any other teacher -- to participate in a religious club," Lindevaldsen says. The Sioux Falls School District argued that Wigg's involvement in the Good News Club would give the impression that the district was endorsing a particular religion. However, the court ruled that the school district violated Wigg’s free-speech rights by refusing to allow her to participate in Good News Club activities. Lindevaldsen feels the ruling sends an important message to school districts across the United States. "It lets them know that the teachers, after school hours, have the same First Amendment rights that any private citizen has to participate in religious activities and fulfill their religious beliefs -- to teach morals and values to young children," she says. Both sides in the case have 30 days to appeal the judgment. If the school district were to do so, Wigg would have another 14 days to cross-appeal. © 2003 AgapePress all rights reserved ~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@~@ A hug is a smile from across the room. rrhaymaker 07/09/03

yup !! You called that one right. We were watching a neighbor once: and he got willie caught really bad. We had to cut the zipper and take him to the ER. Boy did he ever YELL. The boy's dad flipped out about cutting the pants. But it was the only way we could do anything. The ER deadned his willie and cut some of the foreskin to get it free. The boy now wears underwear beneath his pants. Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 7:03 PM Subject: Re: for the aged Worser than all that is when you forget to pull it in before zipping it up! :| ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, July 09, 2003 5:27 PM Subject: for the aged First you forget names, then you forget faces. Then you forget to pull up your zipper. It's worse when you forget to pull it down.

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If you cannot properly read this message, please go to: http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org/emails/angeldecoy/ An Awesome Picture of God's Care Many are praying for God’s protection over our brave men and women fighting overseas. Someone sent us this amazing photo that graphically illustrates an angel watching over our troops. The C-130 transport plane uses flares to protect itself from heat-seeking missiles. This rare photo shows how the pattern of the flares forms an angel. What a great portrait of God’s protection! Thank you for praying for our Armed Forces. The Presidential Prayer Team Visit: www.presidentialprayerteam.org Unless this message was forwarded to you from someone else, you are receiving this message because you are either a member of The Presidential Prayer Team or are participating in our Adopt Our Troops effort. If you wish to receive no further email communications from us and permanently cancel your membership, click here. Powered by Envoy Interactive Image Below

Bob & Glenda Sorry you two cant make it to reunion. I hope we can, I went to Emergency Sat night with chills and 102.8 fever. They said a urinal track infection. My Dr. on Mon. after my suggestion checked the specs. on a medicine I started on Thur, and found IT (Nexium) was the likely cause. Am feeling somewhat better now. I have tried a letter to you over the past few months and have never had time to finish it. I know that sounds like an excuse but wait until you see the letter. Hope to finish it after reunion. Uncle Ward & Aunt Helen ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:;@mx2.aix.cc Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2003 3:12 PM Subject: Reunion Hi Uncle Ward and Aunt Helen Hope this finds you-all in good health and having a great summer. We were really looking forward with pleasant anticipation of making the reunion this year and there simply is no way we can. If I were to list the things that haven't fallen into place you would think I was telling a fib. Chopper has even been a problem. Just brought him back from the Vet a moment ago and it seems he has developed a 102 temp, lung infection which has agitated the right side of his heard and it is slightly enlarged. So, if everything else had worked out this alone would have prevented our trip. Medications and such -- there is no one we know that would take the care he will need and a return on Sat. eve for a check-up, and again next Wednesday. You see why I say that it would be hard to believe. Please give our best wishes to Carolyn and Colleen and all their families and the rest of the Craigs at Indiana. I would be so grateful if you would up-date me with all the news, additions, etc., soon. God bless you all! Bob & Glenda ~Craigs On The WEB <a href="http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html">http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html</a>

bevW 07/18/03 I have a list of folks I know... All written in a book, And every now and then... I go and take a look. That is when I realize These names...they are a part, Not of the book they're written in... But taken from the heart. For each Name stands for someone... Who has crossed my path sometime, And in that meeting they have become... The reason and the rhyme. Although it sounds fantastic... For me to make this claim, I really am composed... Of each remembered name. Although you're not aware... Of any special link, Just knowing you, has shaped my life... More than you could think. So please don't think my greeting... As just a mere routine, Your name was not... Forgotten in between. For when I send a greeting... That is addressed to you, It is because you're on the list... Of folks I'm indebted to. So whether I have known you... For many days or few, In some ways you have a part... In shaping things I do. I am but a total... Of many folks I've met, You are a friend I would prefer... Never to forget. Thank you for being my friend! Images Below

rrhaymaker 07/20/03 STORY WITH A MORAL The teacher gave her fifth grade class an assignment: Get their parents to tell them a story with a moral at the end of it. The next day the kids came back and one by one began to tell their stories. Ashley said, "My father's a farmer, and we have a lot of egg laying hens. One time we were taking our eggs to market in a basket on the front seat of the car when we hit a big bump in the road and all the eggs went everywhere and broke and made a mess." "What's the moral of the story?" asked the teacher. "Don't put all your eggs in one basket!" "Very good," said the teacher. Next little Sarah raised her hand and said, "Our family are farmers too. But we raise chickens for the meat market. We had a dozen eggs one time, but when they hatched we only got ten live chicks, and the moral to this story is, "Don't count your chickens before they're hatched." "That was a fine story Sarah. Michael, do you have a story to share?" "Yes, my daddy told me this story about my Aunt Karen. Aunty Karen was a flight engineer in the Gulf War and her plane got hit. She had to bail out over enemy territory and all she had was a bottle of whiskey, a machine gun and a machete. She drank the whiskey on the way down so it wouldn't break and then she landed right in the middle of 100 enemy troops. She killed seventy of them with the machine gun until she ran out of bullets. Then she killed twenty more with the machete until the blade broke. And then she killed the last ten with her bare hands." "Good heavens," said the horrified teacher, "what kind of moral did your daddy tell you from that horrible story?" "Stay the hell away from Aunt Karen when she's been drinking."

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 10:29 PM Subject: A Blessing... A Blessing... A water bearer in China had two large pots, each hung on the ends of a pole which he carried across his neck. One pot had a crack in it, while the other pot was perfect and always delivered a full portion of water. At the end of the long walk from the stream to the house, the cracked pot arrived only half full. For a full two years this went on daily, with the bearer delivering only one and a half pots full of water to his house. Of course, the perfect pot was proud of its accomplishments, perfect for which it was made. But the poor cracked pot was ashamed of its own imperfection, and miserable that it was able to accomplish only half of what it had been made to do. After 2 years of what it perceived to be a bitter failure, it spoke to the water bearer one day by the stream... "I am ashamed of myself, because this crack in my side causes water to leak out all the way back to your house." The bearer said to the pot, "Did you notice that there were flowers only on your side of the path, but not on the other pot's side? That's because I have always known about your flaw, and I planted flower seeds on your side of the path. Every day while we walk back, you've watered them. For two years I have been able to pick these beautiful flowers to decorate the table. Without you being just the way you are, there would not be this beauty to grace the house." Moral: Each of us has our own unique flaws. We're all cracked pots. But it's the cracks and flaws we each have that make our lives together so very interesting and rewarding. You've just got to take each person for what they are, and look for the good in them. Blessings to all my crackpot friends and relatives. May your mornings bring joy and your evenings bring peace... May your troubles grow less as your blessings increase! Image Below

beverlyW 07/20/03 "I wish for you..." Comfort on difficult days, Smiles when sadness intrudes, Rainbows to follow the clouds, Laughter to kiss your lips, Sunsets to warm your heart Gentle hugs when spirits sag, Friendships to brighten your being, Beauty for your eyes to see, Confidence for when you doubt, Faith so that you can believe, Courage to know yourself, Patience to accept the truth, And love to complete your life. God Bless you! I asked the Lord to bless you As I prayed for you today To guide you and protect you As you go along your way.... His love is always with you His promises are true No matter what the tribulation You know He will see us through So, when the road you're traveling on Seems difficult at best Give your problems to the Lord And God will do the rest. Images Below

rrhaymaker 07/20/03 Brother Bob, I got this from Gwen UNCAPHER As she stood in front of her 5th grade class on the very first day of school, she told the children an untruth. Like most teachers, she looked at her students and said that she loved them all the same. However, that was impossible, because there in the front row, slumped in his seat, was a little boy named Teddy Stoddard. Mrs. Thompson had watched Teddy the year before and noticed that he did not play well with the other children, that his clothes were messy and that he constantly needed a bath. In addition, Teddy could be unpleasant. It got to the point where Mrs. Thompson would actually take delight in marking his papers with a broad red pen, making bold X's and then putting a big "F" at the top of his papers. At the school where Mrs. Thompson taught, she was required to review each child's past records and she put Teddy's off until last. However, when she reviewed his file, she was in for a surprise. Teddy's first grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is a bright child with a ready laugh. He does his work neatly and has good manners... he is a joy to be around.." His second grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is an excellent student, well liked by his classmates, but he is troubled because his mother has a terminal illness and life at home must be a struggle." His third grade teacher wrote, "His mother's death has been hard on him. He tries to do his best, but his father doesn't show much interest and his home life will soon affect him if some steps aren't taken." Teddy's fourth grade teacher wrote, "Teddy is withdrawn and doesn't show much interest in school. He doesn't have many friends and he sometimes sleeps in class." By now, Mrs. Thompson realized the problem and she was ashamed of herself. She felt even worse when her students brought her Christmas presents, wrapped in beautiful ribbons and bright paper, except for Teddy's. His present was clumsily wrapped in the heavy, brown paper that he got from a grocery bag. Mrs. Thompson took pains to open it in the middle of the other presents. Some of the children started to laugh when she found a rhinestone bracelet with some of the stones missing, and a bottle that was one-quarter full of perfume.. But she stifled the children's laughter when she exclaimed how pretty the bracelet was, putting it on, and dabbing some of the perfume on her wrist. Teddy Stoddard stayed after school that day just long enough to say, "Mrs. Thompson, today you smelled just like my Mom used to." After the children left, she cried for at least an hour. On that very day, she quit teaching reading, writing and arithmetic. Instead, she began to teach children. Mrs. Thompson paid particular attention to Teddy. As she worked with him, his mind seemed to come alive. The more she encouraged him, the faster he responded. By the end of the year, Teddy had become one of the smartest children in the class and, despite her lie that she would love all the children the same, Teddy became one of her "teacher's pets.." A year later, she found a note under her door, from Teddy, telling her that she was still the best teacher he ever had in his whole life. Six years went by before she got another note from Teddy. He then wrote that he had finished high school, third in his class, and she was still the best teacher he ever had in life. Four years after that, she got another letter, saying that while things had been tough at times, he'd stayed in school, had stuck with it, and would soon graduate from college with the highest of honors. He assured Mrs. Thompson that she was still the best and favorite teacher he had ever had in his whole life. Then four more years passed and yet another letter came. This time he explained that after he got his bachelor's degree, he decided to go a little further. The letter explained that she was still the best and favorite teacher he ever had. But now his name was a little longer.... The letter was signed, Theodore F. Stoddard, MD. The story does not end there. You see, there was yet another letter that spring. Teddy said he had met this girl and was going to be married. He explained that his father had died a couple of years ago and he was wondering if Mrs. Thompson might agree to sit at the wedding in the place that was usually reserved for the mother of the groom. Of course, Mrs. Thompson did. And guess what? She wore that bracelet, the one with several rhinestones missing. Moreover, she made sure she was wearing the perfume that Teddy remembered his mother wearing on their last Christmas together. They hugged each other, and Dr. Stoddard whispered in Mrs. Thompson's ear, "Thank you Mrs. Thompson for* believing in me. Thank you so much for making me feel important and showing me that I could make a difference." Mrs. Thompson, with tears in her eyes, whispered back. She said, "Teddy, you have it all wrong. You were the one who taught me that I could make a difference. I didn't know how to teach until I met you." (For you that don't know, Teddy Stoddard is the Dr. at Iowa Methodist in Des Moines that has the Stoddard Cancer Wing.) Warm someone's heart today. . . pass this along. I love this story so very much, I cry every time I read it. Just try to make a difference in someone's life today? tomorrow? just "do it". Random acts of kindness, I think they call it? "Believe in Angels, then return the favor" "I believe that friends are quiet angels who lift us to our feet when our wings have trouble remembering how to fly."

HA! > >---------------------- Forwarded Message: --------------------- >From: "David H. Nelson" >To: "RUTH WEEKLEY" , "CATHY (HOME) WAGERS" , "MIRIAM SMITH" , "BILL RADER" , , "GARY L DEHASS" , "Mary Crew" , "ED BALES" >Subject: Fw: To get to Heaven >Date: Wed, 23 Jul 2003 15:18:19 -0400 > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Kim Arnold" >To: "David" >Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 19:47 >Subject: FW: To get to Heaven > > > > > > > > ---------- > > From: Gary Helsel > > Date: Mon, 21 Jul 2003 15:27:22 -0400 > > To: Randy and Donna Helsel , Chris Swigert > > , John Spencer , Carry Rock > > , Stephanie Mason , Lisa Galvin > > , Brian Freas , Dan Earley > > , Hal Bates , Kim Arnold > > > > Subject: Fw: To get to Heaven > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Helsel, Patricia R." > > To: "Gary Helsel (E-mail)" ; "Gerry Springer (E-mail)" > > ; "Keith Wortman (E-mail)" ; > > "Nellie Dersch (E-mail)" ; "Pam (E-mail)" > > > > Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 12:42 PM > > Subject: FW: To get to Heaven > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Subject: What must I do to go to Heaven? > > > > > > > > > "If I sold my house and my car, had a big garage sale, and gave all my > > > money > > > to the church, would that get me into heaven?" I asked the children in >my > > > Sunday school class. > > > > > > "NO!" the children all answered. > > > > > > "If I cleaned the church every day, mowed the yard, and kept everything > > > neat > > > and tidy, would that get me into heaven?" > > > > > > Again the answer was, "NO!" > > > > > > "Well, then, if I was kind to animals and gave candy to all the children > > > and > > > loved my wife, would that get me into heaven?" I asked them again. > > > > > > Once more they all answered, "NO!" > > > > > > "Well," I continued, thinking they were a good bit more theologically > > > sophisticated than I had given them credit for, "then how can I get into > > > heaven?" > > > > > > A five-year-old boy shouted out, "YOU GOTTA BE DEAD!" > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- MSN 8 with e-mail virus protection service: 2 months FREE*

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Thanks for the prayer, Bob! It is very good. In fact, I think it's the very best prayer possible. I have spent the last two days almost constantly at the computer making a book about my mother's life, since husband and daughter have gone on a trip together and left me to my own devices. It's in Swedish so the people who take care of her can begin to see who she "really" is, I hope it works. Meanwhile it has been fascinating to sift through pictures and events and memories, trying to see things from her perspective! But at the moment my butt is really aching to get away from this chair! Have a good week. Thanks for keeping in touch. Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 3:29 AM Subject: Re: Shipwrecked ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html A voyaging ship was wrecked during a storm at sea and only two of the men on it were able to swim to a small, desert like island. The two survivors, not knowing what else to do, agreed that they had no other recourse but to pray to God. However, to find out whose prayer was more powerful, they agreed to divide the territory between them and stay on opposite sides of the island. The first thing they prayed for was food. The next morning, the first man saw a fruit-bearing tree on his side of the land, and he was able to eat its fruit. The other man's parcel of land remained barren. After a week, the first man was lonely and he decided to pray for a wife. The next day, another ship was wrecked, and the only survivor was a woman who swam to his side of the land. On the other side of the island, there was nothing. Soon the first man prayed for a house, clothes, more food. The next day, like magic, all of these were given to him. However, the second man still had nothing. Finally, the first man prayed for a ship, so that he and his wife could leave the island. In the morning, he found a ship docked at his side of the island. The first man boarded the ship with his wife and decided to leave the second man on the island. He considered the other man unworthy to receive God's blessings, since none of his prayers had been answered. As the ship was about to leave, the first man heard a voice from Heaven booming, "Why are you leaving your companion on the island?" "My blessings are mine alone, since I was the one who prayed for them," the first man answered. "His prayers were all unanswered and so he does not deserve anything." "You are mistaken!" the voice rebuked him. "He had only one prayer, which I answered. If not for that, you would not have received any of my blessings." "Tell me," the first man asked the voice, "What did he pray for that I should owe him anything?" "He prayed that all your prayers be answered." For all we know, our blessings are not the fruits of our prayers alone, but those of another praying for us. This is too good not to share. With obedience come blessings. My prayer for you today is that all your prayers are answered. Be blessed... "Father, bless this person in whatever it is that You know he or she may be needing this day" Image Below

Hi friends, Billy Graham went to college in our home town of Wheaton, Illinois, so this is definitely part of our karma, wouldn't you think?... I don't agree with everything that is implied in this letter, but I found the thoughts worth reading - maybe you will, too. It's definitely a conversation-starter, especially for us nerds, as Anna would tell me. Thanks to Laura, and good greetings! Will try to call you from Alvesta next week, if you're not in California or someplace like that. Please send your phone number before Friday, if you're home, I lost it! Many thanks to Anders for taking time to let me meet (and hold, what a privilege!) little beautiful Marcus and to see your good face, one of my favorites. I looked at his newborn picture again today, and I remembered who he reminded me of then - Anna! And now he's even more fantastic. Tom, perhaps you could print this out for Mom, that'll get her going! Good to talk to you the other day. Jim, it would be interesting to hear what you have to say about this - since both you and Althea work with kids at fritids... I wonder if you two would agree? Too bad I can't come to Göteborg this weekend - maybe you'd like to spend a day in Åsenhöga/Gnosjö? Althea, I'll call you later this afternoon! I suspect you and I stand fairly close on this one, Carol, wouldn't you think? It was nice to see you this spring, even if it was just for a minute. Fancy that I was thinking about you just before I noticed you and your dog. Well, I guess it wasn't an amazing coincidence, three blocks from your home, but fun anyway. Bob, this ought to be right up your alley, no? I'll share my agreements and disagreements with you later this week! And Per-Arne and Linda - is it time yet? Our thoughts and prayers are with you! How was your move? Love to all, Barb ----- Original Message ----- From: "Laura Moberg" <lauramoberg@msn.com> To: <barbara.wall@chello.se>; Sent: Monday, July 28, 2003 5:28 PM Subject: Fwd: Fw: Kind of interesting !! >PRETTY INTERESTING YES ? > >In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a >laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's >not funny, it's intended to get you thinking. > Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane > >Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" > >(regarding the attacks on Sept. 11). > > > >Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I > >believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've > >been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government > >and to get out of our lives. > > > > And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How > >can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand > >He leave us alone?" > > > >In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. > >I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body > >found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we > >said OK. > > > >Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible > >says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as > >yourself. And we said OK. > > > >Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they > >misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might > >damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an > >expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK. > > > >Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our > >children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty > >member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we > >don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (there's > >a big difference between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, > >humiliating, kicking, etc.). And we said OK. > > > >Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and > >they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK. > > > >Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and > >they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they > >want so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell > >their parents they got them at school. And we said OK. > > > >Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in > >private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't > >matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long > >as I have a job and the economy is good. > > > >Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and > >call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female > >body. And we said OK. > > > >And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published > >pictures of nude children and then further again by making them available > >on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech. > > > >Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that > >promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music that > >encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said > >it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes it > >seriously anyway, so go right ahead. > > > >Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they > >don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill > >strangers, their classmates, and themselves. > > > >Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. > >I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." > > > >Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the > >world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but > >question what the Bible says. > > > >Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire > >but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice > >about sharing. > > > >Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through > >cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and > >workplace. > > > >Are you laughing? > > > >Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on > >your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they > >WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about > >what other people think of us than what God thinks of us. > > > > Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... > >no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't > >sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in! > _________________________________________________________________ > Protect your PC - get McAfee.com VirusScan Online > http://clinic.mcafee.com/clinic/ibuy/campaign.asp?cid=3963

>From: "Bob Crew, MBA, CFA, CFP" >To: "Beth Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Brenda Gill \(E-mail\)" ,"Charlie Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Doug Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Ed Cotney \(E-mail\)" ,"Greg Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Greg Crew \(E-mail 2\)" ,"Jill Flossie \(E-mail\)" ,"Larry/Joan Doskocil \(E-mail\)" ,"Mike Schmidt \(E-mail\)" >Subject: FW: THE MILITARY MAN >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:11:09 -0500 > > > THE MILITARY MAN > > >Subject: THE MILITARY MAN >The average age of the military man is 19 years. He is a short haired, >tight-muscled kid who, >under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. >Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to >die for his country. >He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than >wash his father's; >but he has never collected unemployment either. > > > >He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, >pursued some form of sport activities, >drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke >up with him when he left, >or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away. >He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm >howizzitor. >He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is >working or fighting from before dawn >to well after dusk. > >He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can >field strip a rifle in 30 seconds >and reassemble it in less time in the dark. >He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher >and use either one effectively if he must. >He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional. >He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march. > > > > >He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without >spirit or individual dignity. >He is self-sufficient. >He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. >He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. >He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. >He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts. >If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his >food. >He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run >low. > >He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his >hands. >He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job. >He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still >find ironic humor in it all. >He has seen more suffering and death then he should have in his short >lifetime. > > > >He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them. >He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat >and is unashamed. >He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at >rigid attention, >while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who >haven't bothered to stand, >remove their hat, or even stop talking. >In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right >to be disrespectful. > >Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the >price for our freedom. >Beardless or not, he is not a boy. >He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 >years. > > > > >He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding. >Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his >blood. > >And now we even have woman over there in danger, doing their part in this >tradition of going to War >when our nation calls us to do so. >As you go to bed tonight, remember this shot.. >A short lull, a little shade and a picture of loved ones in their helmets. > > > >Prayer wheel for our military... please don't break it. Please send this on >after a short prayer. > >Prayer Wheel > >"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect >us. >Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in >our time of need. Amen." > >Prayer : When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer >for our ground troops in Afghanistan, >sailors on ships, >and airmen in the air, >and for those in Iraq. >There is nothing attached.... >This can be very powerful....... >Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Sailor, Coastguardsman, Marine >or Airman, prayer is the very best one. > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- >-- >Registered representative of and securities offered through MML Investors >Services, Inc. Supervisory Office: > >1414 Main St. >Springfield, MA 01144-1013. >(413) 737-8400 > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE*

Brother Bob, This came from Gwen Uncapher GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! Reply-To: "Robert Ray Haymaker Sr." <pappy111567@charter.net> From: "Robert Ray Haymaker Sr." <pappy111567@charter.net> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Subject: Date: Sun, 3 Aug 2003 13:12:20 -0400 Subject: That's God God will give you what you need to be where he leads you to be - That's God Have you ever been just sitting there and all of a sudden you feel like doing something nice for someone you care for . . THAT'S GOD. . . He talks to you through the Holy Spirit. Have you ever been down and out and nobody seems to be around for you to talk to. THAT'S GOD. . . He wants you to talk to Him. Have you ever been thinking about somebody that you haven't seen in a long time and then next thing you know you see them or receive a phone call from them. . . THAT'S GOD There is no such thing as coincidence. Have you ever received something wonderful that you didn't even ask for, like money in the mail, a debt that had mysteriously been cleared, or a coupon to a department store where you had just seen something you wanted, but couldn't afford . .. . THAT'S GOD. . . He knows the desires of your heart. Have you ever been in a situation and you had no clue how it is going to get better, but now you look back on it . . . THAT'S GOD... He passes us through tribulation to see a brighter day . . . DO YOU THINK THAT THIS EMAIL WAS ACCIDENTALLY SENT TO YOU? NOPE! I was thinking of You! Please pass this along and share the Power of God. In all that we do, we should totally give HIM thanks and our blessings will continue to multiply. This message was sent to me by a close friend so please pass it on to all of your good friends. This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

rrhaymaker 08/03/03 Brother Bob, If America had left J. Edgar Hoover and Senator Joseph McCarthy do their thing: America would be better off today. They should have rounded every Commie in the country up: and put them deep in the Everglades. I would have striped them and dropped them down there. A man and a woman at each dropping point. No food, but a fishing hook and some line. They can eat the fish raw. GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!!

Brother Bob, I think Gwen Uncapher sent the Mars article to me. GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 1:00 AM Subject: Re: MARS This is amazing. Where did you read about this? I found something not too long ago that predicted other objects that will be affected this year. Don't remember . . . thought I had placed a book-mark (favorites) on the page. But, can't find it. Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 12:55 AM Subject: MARS Don't know, if city lights, etc. will affect the ability for some of you to see this well, but thought it worth passing on. This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars, an encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth in the last 5,000 years but it may be as long as 60,000 years. The encounter will culminate on August 27th when Mars comes to within 34,649,589 miles and will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification, Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August, Mars will rise in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m. But by the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m. That's pretty convenient when it comes to seeing something that no human has seen in recorded history. So, mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month. Share this! No one alive today will ever see this again.

Brother Bob. I have a ton of 33 1/3 LP records of religious music. But my record player went to heaven a long time ago. I also have some of Jack Van Impe sermons. A lot are Tenneessee Ernie Ford. A few George Beverly Shay. Some are mixed artists. Too bad I can't e-mail them to ya. Have ya copy them on a CD and e-mail them back. But things just don't cooperate in that fasion. I have a lot of books, but most are packed away. I kept out Scofield and Thompson Bibles, and Strongs concordance, and a few others. GOD Bless you and yours Pappy

Brother Bob, I remember the song. But the music on the site don't seem to match the song. My memory may have a short circuit or short in it. Remember the TV program that srarted with "be still and know that I am GOD?" Maybe GOD puts us down so HE can talk to us: uninterupted. If so I wish HE would enlighten me on how satan is rocking the very foundation of the Christian World. He (satan) has already gainned entrance into all the Churches. With the gay movement and abortion. The church seems to accept this sin as the normal thing to do. The preachers of today do not preach on sin and the concequences of being sinful, I remmember when the preachers would raise his voice and pound the pulpit and sometimes leap off the podium yelling. At times I was sure GOD was going to reach down and tear the roof off the church and start thrashing the daylights out of half the people: and I would be the first and receive the worst. You said about wine: well some is good to build blood (port wine) and some aids in digestion. Some preachers say it is a sin to drink it. But I don't agree; unless you drink in excess and become drunk. The whiskey and votka: I am not sure on that point. It comes under the strong drink theme. GOD Bless You and yours Pappy Whacky weed does nothing at all: except make ya fell like coughing. Don' see what the big deal is. Perscription drugs don't have much effect on me unless I use 2 or 3 times what is perscribed. A pill like percocet usually makes ya sleepy: but dosn't me. I need 2 just to kill the pain in my shoulder and kidneys. ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 3:43 PM Subject: Re: TIERD I was just kidding about the chaser. Did see your reference to it last week and got a kick out if it. I sometimes drink a glass of wine for relaxation. Heard marijuana worked but have never found any one near to let me try one -- and really don't want to . . . afraid it would work and then I'd be hooked on something else I don't wish to be on out side of my much too many Rx. I sat on the porch this afternoon and tried to remember the song about God looking out for the sparrows -- then my mind settled on you. The song goes something like 'I don't worry about tomorrow . . ." Would love to find it somewhere. I got rid of all my books so I no longer have access to those great hymns that have touched my heart. . . . but that is a good one to hum when you feel down and concerned. God's love . . . Bob & Glenda Tell Vivian to have a great birthday tomorrow! ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Bob Craig Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 11:11 AM Subject: Re: TIERD Brother Bob, No: that was only that one time. I used a glass to wash down 2 sleeping pills and some pain pills. Killed the pain for a few hours but no sleep. That was about a week ago now. You must have missed it. GOD Bless Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: TIERD Pappy! You aren't nipping the vodka again as a chaser, are you? ;-) ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: TIERD Brother Bob At the moment I am more tired than I have ever been in my life. Even working 16 hours a day every day for 7 month: did not tire me out. The job was running a 90 pound jackhammer: so was not one where I had time to get in trouble. The job finaly ended and I was back to 40 hour week. I was so wound up that I had a hard time to adjust to such a slow pace. It took me several weeks. I have not fellt up to much tree work. I add a few site members and stuff like e-mails. But have not done any research. Well enough of my complaints. You take care. God Bless Pappy I do not plan on being down for long. This is just one more valley I am required to pass through. It won't be too long.

Brother Bob, No: that was only that one time. I used a glass to wash down 2 sleeping pills and some pain pills. Killed the pain for a few hours but no sleep. That was about a week ago now. You must have missed it. GOD Bless Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Saturday, August 02, 2003 12:54 AM Subject: Re: TIERD Pappy! You aren't nipping the vodka again as a chaser, are you? ;-) ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 10:53 PM Subject: TIERD Brother Bob At the moment I am more tired than I have ever been in my life. Even working 16 hours a day every day for 7 month: did not tire me out. The job was running a 90 pound jackhammer: so was not one where I had time to get in trouble. The job finaly ended and I was back to 40 hour week. I was so wound up that I had a hard time to adjust to such a slow pace. It took me several weeks. I have not fellt up to much tree work. I add a few site members and stuff like e-mails. But have not done any research. Well enough of my complaints. You take care. God Bless Pappy I do not plan on being down for long. This is just one more valley I am required to pass through. It won't be too long.

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Brother Bob, Looks to me as if the Democrats are headed full speed down the road to HELL !! Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: RFC Updates To: RFC Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 6:41 PM Subject: Week Ending August 1, 2003 - From Washington, DC LEGISLATIVE UPDATE - WEEK ENDING AUGUST 1, 2003 CONGRESS IN RECESS THE HOUSE THE MAJORITY LEADER AND ISRAEL The House of Representatives actually recessed on July 25th and will not return to session until Wednesday, September 3rd. Majority Leader Tom DeLay (R-TX) is spending much of the recess on a Middle Eastern fact finding tour. This week he spoke before the Israeli Knesset and made the proclamation that, "We know our victory in the war on terror depends on Israel's survival. We know Israel's survival depends on the willingness of free nations, especially our own, to stand by all endangered democracies in their time of need. We hear your voice cry out in the desert, and we will never leave your side. Freedom and terrorism cannot coexist." Tom DeLay, a born-again Baptist, believes Jews have a Biblical right to Israel and he is one of Israel's best allies in the Congress. FREEDOM OF SPEECH FROM THE PULPIT The Religious Freedom Coalition is a strong supporter of the efforts of Congressman Walter Jones (R-NC), to return freedom of political speech to the pulpit. My daughter, Katie Murray, who is a Christian High School senior, prepared a powerful MS power point presentation explaining how this vital freedom was lost by pastors and how it can be restored. The MS power point presentation has been viewed by numerous congressmen and received very positive comments. The power point is available at our Internet site in two formats. Format one is a download and functions just like power point. Format two is an html version. Click here for format one and here for html format two. THE SENATE (Unlike the House, the Senate was in session through this entire week.) "DEEPLY HELD BELIEFS" These are the new Democrat code words meaning "too religious." In the case of Catholics, "deeply held beliefs" means an individual who exactly follows the teachings of the Catholic Church. The Senate filibuster against Catholic judges is led by Jewish Senator Chuck Schumer of New York. It is so incredibly odd, considering the suffering of the Jewish people in the Holocaust, that a Jew would want to keep those of deep religious faith from office. One of the first orders from Adolph Hitler regarding Jews was to bar them from public office. Now we have an American Jewish Senator who would bar Catholics from office in much the same manner. A second Jewish Senator, Diane Feinstein from California, has also declared that those with "deeply held beliefs" should be barred from office. What is even stranger is the fact that the best defenders and allies of Israel in the United States are Christians with "deeply held beliefs." It is the "pro-life" Christians in America who statistically are the greatest defenders of Israel. Is Senator Schumer aware of this or is he ignorant of Jewish as well as Christian political reality? The debate in the Senate has been intense, with Democrat Senators refusing to acknowledge that "deeply held beliefs" means religious beliefs, yet they go on to say that because of their position on abortion, Catholics should be barred from holding judgeships. Yet, these Catholics, such as William Pryor of Alabama, are merely following the dictates of the pope in Rome when it comes to their pro-life stance. The Catholic bashing is not limited to liberal Jews in the Senate. Pro-abortion Catholic Senators have also been spouting off the "deeply held beliefs" objection. Sen. Dick Durbin (D-IL) was quoted in The Hill newspaper as saying, "Religion is the last refuge of extremists." However, according to his church, Senator Durbin does not have the right to call himself a Catholic or partake in Catholic Sacraments because of his pro-abortion views. Catholic Senator Durbin refuses to follow the spiritual directives of his church and his pope. Thus Durbin wants to punish those Catholics such as William Pryor who do follow church doctrine. Mainstream newspapers such as the Union Leader in New Hampshire have begun to see the Senate filibusters as anti-Catholic, anti-Christian behavior on the part of Democrats. (See the Union Leader Editorial) Catholic organizations upset with the treatment of Catholics by Senator Schumer and other Democrats have begun advertising campaigns in states with Democrat Senators who claim to be Catholic. The newspaper ads feature the "Catholics need not apply" theme. To see the advertisement click here. In bygone days in some big city police forces, when one black shot another black a street cop would radio the case in as "NHI" or no human involved. This was pure bigotry, yet is no different from the "DHB" code used by the Democrats to block devout Catholics from being confirmed to the Federal bench by the U.S. Senate. Bigotry is a big part of being a white liberal. The closure vote on Circuit Court nominee Bill Pryor failed 53-44 on Thursday. Democrats Ben Nelson (NE) and Zell Miller (GA) voted with Republicans; however, 60 votes were needed to override the Democrat filibuster. THE PRESIDENCY HOMOSEXUAL "MARRIAGE" The President made it clear where he stands on the issue of "Gay Marriage" during a Rose Garden news conference this past Wednesday, stating, "I am mindful that we're all sinners. And I caution those who may try to take the speck out of their neighbor's eye when they got a log in their own. I think it's very important for our society to respect each individual, to welcome those with good hearts, to be a welcoming country." He continued, "On the other hand that does not mean that somebody like me needs to compromise on an issue such as marriage. And that's really where the issue is headed here in Washington and that is the definition of marriage. I believe in the sanctity of marriage. I believe a marriage is between a man and a woman and I think we ought to codify that one way or the other and we've got lawyers looking at the best way to do that." A Constitutional Amendment to defend the institution of marriage has firm and enthusiastic support in the Senate and the House. Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist (R-TN) had previously stated his support for a constitutional amendment. After the President's statement Frist commented, "I support the President 100 percent." In the House, Congresswoman Marilyn Musgrave (R-CO) has already introduced the Federal Marriage Amendment which is supported by the House leadership. There was angry criticism of the President's remarks from homosexual Congressman Barney Franks (D-MA), but most Democrat leaders, particularly the nine running for President, said little or nothing. Supporting homosexual marriage by a Democrat presidential candidate at this point would doom election prospects. The polls show the public moving rapidly away from support of "gay unions" the more likely they become. I will review the options to "gay unions" in a more complete manner in next week's update, when Congress will be in recess. SOCIAL ISSUES BUT BIG CORPORATIONS ARE PRO-GAY The "Destinations Section" of USA Today on Friday had a large story on how friendly to "gays" the online travel company Orbitz is. The company is running TV ads targeting homosexuals which depict a gay marionette ogling a man sun-tanning by the pool. Orbitz's Jefrey Marsh told USA Today that, "Going on TV is the ultimate sign that you're a gay-friendly company." Orbitz justifies the ads by pointing out that the average homosexual spends $1590.00 a year on leisure travel versus $1,370 per heterosexual. Orbitz apparently fails to realize that this statistic would be a useful business tool only if 50% of the population were homosexual. Although 10% of men have been homosexually raped by the time they reach adulthood, less than 1% of men are actually practicing homosexuals. Thus each homosexual would have to spend $137,000.00 per year on travel to match that spent by normal heterosexual men. By the way, tickets purchased from Orbitz carry an additional "service charge" while those purchased directly from airline Internet sites do not. I have never found a fare at Orbitz that I could not match or beat by going directly to an airline site. If homosexuals want to pay more for their airline tickets and to use Orbitz because it is "gay-friendly," let them. As for me I will not buy any tickets from Orbitz knowing that the "service charge" is being used to finance the "gay culture." There is more: all of the Fortune 500 companies give money to homosexual organizations or homosexual causes such as those related to AIDS. There is not a single Fortune 500 company that gives funds to social conservative organizations such as the Religious Freedom Coalition. While homosexual groups get grants of up to millions of dollars a year from big corporations, our funding comes in the form of $10 and $20 checks from individuals. We receive virtually no funds from the 50,000 people a month who visit our Internet site. THE RFC INTERNATIONAL In several previous issues of the Legislative Update I have mentioned that I would accompany several congressmen to Israel this month and tour Jewish "settlements" with them. The object of the journey was to show congressmen that these "settlements" are major cities which provide billions of dollars of economic output not only for Israel but also provide jobs for thousands of Palestinians. This trip would have also allowed me to present them with the Biblical reasons for Samaria to remain a part of Israel. Although I did manage to arrange various visits to "settlements" for congressmen, I was unable to go myself because of the cost of the airline ticket and hotels during the high travel season. I do not plan to travel again to the Holy Land until later in the year to once again inspect the Christian schools and ministries the RFC funds in the West Bank. Our video documentary, Holy Land Settlements, is now available at our online store at a discounted price. RFC ONLINE Our online store now carries men's Christian and patriotic ties as well as men's inspirational socks. We also now carry women's patriotic scarves. A number of videos produced by the RFC are also available. Check our Internet site at www.rfcnet.org for last minute updates! Please feel free to forward this weekly update to friends. We are now at over 60,000 subscribers .... Get the word out and help us hit the 100,000 mark by the end of the year! See below for subscribe/unsubscribe instructions. God richly bless you, that is my prayer. William J. Murray, Chairman - Religious Freedom Coalition Your gift to the RFC helps us with our advocacy work in Washington, DC. Check out our new support page. Please address all comments and questions to support@rfcnet.org. Visit our online bookstore!

Brother Bob At the moment I am more tired than I have ever been in my life. Even working 16 hours a day every day for 7 month: did not tire me out. The job was running a 90 pound jackhammer: so was not one where I had time to get in trouble. The job finaly ended and I was back to 40 hour week. I was so wound up that I had a hard time to adjust to such a slow pace. It took me several weeks. I have not fellt up to much tree work. I add a few site members and stuff like e-mails. But have not done any research. Well enough of my complaints. You take care. God Bless Pappy I do not plan on being down for long. This is just one more valley I am required to pass through. It won't be too long.

Hi Bob! Glad to hear from you. Hope and pray you and yours are doing well. Regarding the disclaimer at the end of the "Military Man" essay, I can't say I know anything about it. One of my kissin' cousins sent that to me and there was a long list of people who sent it to him, who sent it to them, and so on. I don't see where credit is given to authorship, though there is a phone number listed for Springfield, Mass., area. I suspect you could post it and no one would really have a conniption, but...whadda-I-know? Take care, Beth >From: "Bob Craig" >Reply-To: "Bob Craig" >To: "M.B. Crew" >Subject: Re: FW: THE MILITARY MAN >Date: Fri, 1 Aug 2003 16:13:41 -0400 > >I am honored you would send this to me. It is a very impressive document. I have a web page using the subject of Freedom, Liberty and Christianity that your E-mail would add to very nicely. At the bottom there is restrictive language indicating you may not wish this to be done. > >Would there be any way we could receive special permission to reformat it into HTML and post it available as a link to our Craig Pages Web Site? > >I would appreciate it if we could. It would likely look real nice with a USA Flag or other background suitable to the message. > >Looking to hear back. > >Bob & Glenda >~Craigs On The WEB >http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html > ----- Original Message ----- > From: M.B. Crew > To: BobK0214@adelphia.net ; davis.susan.l@att.net ; dodied@visi.com ; KATIELELLIS@aol.com ; KATmorton@aol.com ; Lleady23@aol.com ; mfulton30@aol.com ; nl_mmast@seovec.org ; rbbmedia@hotmail.com ; rcraig5@cox.net ; Rsjthomas@aol.com ; Sue@winc.com > Sent: Friday, August 01, 2003 3:38 PM > Subject: Fwd: FW: THE MILITARY MAN > > > >From: "Bob Crew, MBA, CFA, CFP" > > >To: "Beth Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Brenda Gill \(E-mail\)" ,"Charlie Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Doug Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Ed Cotney \(E-mail\)" ,"Greg Crew \(E-mail\)" ,"Greg Crew \(E-mail 2\)" ,"Jill Flossie \(E-mail\)" ,"Larry/Joan Doskocil \(E-mail\)" ,"Mike Schmidt \(E-mail\)" > >Subject: FW: THE MILITARY MAN > >Date: Thu, 31 Jul 2003 17:11:09 -0500 > > > > > > THE MILITARY MAN > > > > > >Subject: THE MILITARY MAN > >The average age of the military man is 19 years. He is a short haired, > >tight-muscled kid who, > >under normal circumstances is considered by society as half man, half boy. > >Not yet dry behind the ears, not old enough to buy a beer, but old enough to > >die for his country. > >He never really cared much for work and he would rather wax his own car than > >wash his father's; > >but he has never collected unemployment either. > > > > > > > >He's a recent High School graduate; he was probably an average student, > >pursued some form of sport activities, > >drives a ten year old jalopy, and has a steady girlfriend that either broke > >up with him when he left, > >or swears to be waiting when he returns from half a world away. > >He listens to rock and roll or hip-hop or rap or jazz or swing and 155mm > >howizzitor. > >He is 10 or 15 pounds lighter now than when he was at home because he is > >working or fighting from before dawn > >to well after dusk. > > > >He has trouble spelling, thus letter writing is a pain for him, but he can > >field strip a rifle in 30 seconds > >and reassemble it in less time in the dark. > >He can recite to you the nomenclature of a machine gun or grenade launcher > >and use either one effectively if he must. > >He digs foxholes and latrines and can apply first aid like a professional. > >He can march until he is told to stop or stop until he is told to march. > > > > > > > > > >He obeys orders instantly and without hesitation, but he is not without > >spirit or individual dignity. > >He is self-sufficient. > >He has two sets of fatigues: he washes one and wears the other. > >He keeps his canteens full and his feet dry. > >He sometimes forgets to brush his teeth, but never to clean his rifle. > >He can cook his own meals, mend his own clothes, and fix his own hurts. > >If you're thirsty, he'll share his water with you; if you are hungry, his > >food. > >He'll even split his ammunition with you in the midst of battle when you run > >low. > > > >He has learned to use his hands like weapons and weapons like they were his > >hands. > >He can save your life - or take it, because that is his job. > >He will often do twice the work of a civilian, draw half the pay and still > >find ironic humor in it all. > >He has seen more suffering and death then he should have in his short > >lifetime. > > > > > > > >He has stood atop mountains of dead bodies, and helped to create them. > >He has wept in public and in private, for friends who have fallen in combat > >and is unashamed. > >He feels every note of the National Anthem vibrate through his body while at > >rigid attention, > >while tempering the burning desire to 'square-away' those around him who > >haven't bothered to stand, > >remove their hat, or even stop talking. > >In an odd twist, day in and day out, far from home, he defends their right > >to be disrespectful. > > > >Just as did his Father, Grandfather, and Great-grandfather, he is paying the > >price for our freedom. > >Beardless or not, he is not a boy. > >He is the American Fighting Man that has kept this country free for over 200 > >years. > > > > > > > > > >He has asked nothing in return, except our friendship and understanding. > >Remember him, always, for he has earned our respect and admiration with his > >blood. > > > >And now we even have woman over there in danger, doing their part in this > >tradition of going to War > >when our nation calls us to do so. > >As you go to bed tonight, remember this shot.. > >A short lull, a little shade and a picture of loved ones in their helmets. > > > > > > > >Prayer wheel for our military... please don't break it. Please send this on > >after a short prayer. > > > >Prayer Wheel > > > >"Lord, hold our troops in your loving hands. Protect them as they protect > >us. > >Bless them and their families for the selfless acts they perform for us in > >our time of need. Amen." > > > >Prayer : When you receive this, please stop for a moment and say a prayer > >for our ground troops in Afghanistan, > >sailors on ships, > >and airmen in the air, > >and for those in Iraq. > >There is nothing attached.... > >This can be very powerful....... > >Of all the gifts you could give a US Soldier, Sailor, Coastguardsman, Marine > >or Airman, prayer is the very best one. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------------- > >-- > >Registered representative of and securities offered through MML Investors > >Services, Inc. Supervisory Office: > > > >1414 Main St. > >Springfield, MA 01144-1013. > >(413) 737-8400 > >

I think the ACLU is behind all this attacks on Christians. There should be a way to get all their lawyers disbarred, and every member deported. Revoke their citizenship. Don't ever let them back in the country. If they return Shoot them: and feed them to the alligators. Pappy Keep this moving, goodstuff speaks for itself. Samuel Thompson wrote: I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution. Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome... "But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations. Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.. The silent majority has been silent too long.. it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away .. we are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side! God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him... God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all..... God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God... May 2003 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions. Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, delete it!!

Don't know, if city lights, etc. will affect the ability for some of you to see this well, but thought it worth passing on. This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars, an encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth in the last 5,000 years but it may be as long as 60,000 years. The encounter will culminate on August 27th when Mars comes to within 34,649,589 miles and will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification, Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August, Mars will rise in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m. But by the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m. That's pretty convenient when it comes to seeing something that no human has seen in recorded history. So, mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month. Share this! No one alive today will ever see this again.

Brother Bob, Just back from ER. 3 times in July. The place was so busy that the only room was the Truama Room. Usually ya die in that place. I told them the Grimm Reaper came and looked in: when he saw who was laying there he turned and RAN. Guess he did not want another sound thrashing. Check out this link. Gwen UNCAPHER sent it to me. GOD Bless America Pappy http://www.llerrah.com/dreams.htm

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If you cannot read the page, please see the entire update at http://www.presidentialprayerteam.org Print & Post Email Update Thursday, July 31, 2003 PRESIDENTIAL PRAYER REQUESTS FOR JULY 31, 2003 Photo courtesy of the White House. Pray for American troops now waiting further direction off the coast of Liberia. Pray for wisdom for the president, his advisors, as well as for any troops who will intervene. Pray for the unrest to cease. Pray for the safety and protection of all our troops wherever they are stationed. Pray for the president's efforts to promote faith-based programs in America, and pray for the houses of worship that are making a difference in neighborhoods and cities across the country. Pray for the athletic programs in our country--that these programs will have strong morals, instilling right and wrong in every child who participates. Pray for members of Congress as they take their summer recess, that each elected representative will get in touch with his/her constituency learning how best to serve those who have placed them in office. Give thanks for the return of the Bible verses that had been removed from the Grand Canyon National Park. Though the decision could be temporary, pray for all Americans to speak out against the removal of Scripture from public places. PRESIDENTIAL QUOTE FOR THE WEEK "The fundamental basis of this nation's law was given to Moses on the Mount. The fundamental basis of our Bill of Rights comes from the teaching we get from Exodus and St. Matthew, from Isaiah and St. Paul." --Harry Truman Harry Truman portrait courtesy of the Library of Congress. OTHER LEADERS TO PRAY FOR THIS WEEK Director of the Office of Faith Based and Community Initiatives James Towey. Photo courtesy of the White House. Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld Secretary of Health & Human Services Tommy Thompson Director of the Secret Service Ralph Basham Director of the Office of Faith Based and Community Initiatives James Towey "Hear, O Lord, my righteous plea; listen to my cry. Give ear to my prayer--it does not rise from deceitful lips." --The Bible, Psalm 17:1 (NIV) FIND IT ON OUR WEBSITE THIS WEEK! Harry Truman on the basis of American law. More... Faith-based leader Dave Donaldson joins PPT Honorary Committee. More... Government turns to faith to fight drug abuse. More... Help name our newest feature! More... Receive the full text update by sending a blank email to sendmetheupdate@presidentialprayerteam.org You are receiving this message because you are either a member of The Presidential Prayer Team or are participating in our Adopt Our Troops effort. If you wish to receive no further email communications from us and permanently cancel your membership in PPT, send an email to ppt-11019918-1000@presidentialprayerteam.net. You will be immediately removed unless you also joined under another email address or this email is being forwarded to you through another email address. Powered by Envoy Interactive.

RootsWeb Review: RootsWeb's Weekly E-zine Vol. 6, No. 31, 30 July 2003, Circulation: 981,288+ (c) 1998-2003 RootsWeb.com, Inc. http://www.rootsweb.com/ Editor: Myra Vanderpool Gormley, Certified Genealogist Editor-RWR@rootsweb.com Certification: http://www.bcgcertification.org/certification/ * * * Find your ancestors: Post genealogical queries on all relevant surname, locality, and topic message boards and mailing lists: Message Boards: http://boards.rootsweb.com/ Mailing Lists: http://lists.rootsweb.com/ WorldConnect: http://wc.rootsweb.com/ * * * If you wish to reach the RootsWeb Review, DO NOT use your e-mail's "REPLY TO" option. Instead write to: Editor-RWR@rootsweb.com * * * Do not send ANY subscription/e-mail changes/requests to the editor. See Section 9 below for RWR subscription guidelines and instructions ==================================================================== In This Issue: 1. NEWS AND NOTES. 1a. "Take Me to Your Mailing Lists and Message Boards" 1b. 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At times you've been convinced that Jean Pierre's roots lie somewhere on Mars, Venus, or possibly the Rings of Saturn and that you are really looking to find evidence of the Mother Ship that dropped him off in America rather than his European roots, but in one of your more practical and lucid moments you decide to search for him in more mundane locations. You want to learn why Jean Pierre, a French-speaking fur-trapper rumored in family lore to have "come over with Lafayette" at the time of the American Revolutionary War, ended up in Louisiana with his wife, the equally elusive Marie Teresia (maiden name unknown) who is said to be of "Black Dutch" ancestry. One other item that could help in your search -- as far back as you can trace Jean Pierre and Marie Teresia they are found in various Protestant church records although most other French you have found around them are Catholic. RootsWeb has a Mailing List and Message Board for virtually every aspect of your genealogical research and when looking to break down brick walls your research techniques need not be any different than when looking for more easily traceable ancestors. The concept is still the same: Start with what you know and work backward toward what you don't know. OK. You know that Jean Pierre was a product of French culture and language. You know his occupation. You have family lore to investigate concerning a connection to the American Revolution. You know that Marie Teresia was rumored to be of "Black Dutch" ancestry. But, what does "Black Dutch" mean and from where might she have come? Where did she meet Jean Pierre and under what circumstances might they have married? What does the fact that your ancestors were Protestant mean to your search? Many of your questions most likely can be answered by resident list experts on the various RootsWeb Mailing Lists, so it is wise to begin by finding lists for subjects connected to your searches. You will find that the lists are grouped into Surnames, USA, International, and Other. http://lists.rootsweb.com/ If there is a Mailing List for the surname you are searching that is always a good starting point. If not, as in this case, look for locality lists and topic lists in the "Other" section. To find out more about Jean Pierre and the American Revolution story, you might want to join AMERICAN-REVOLUTION-L@rootsweb.com and to look into possible religious reasons for emigration, subscribe to HUGUENOT- L@rootsweb.com -- where you can learn more about the early French Protestants. Subscribe to BLACK-DUTCH-L@rootsweb.com to find out what this designation might indicate for locating Marie Teresia's ancestry. You can subscribe directly from the above "lists" page. You might even want to give FURTRAPPERS-MOUNTAINMEN-L@rootsweb.com a try. A glance at the list archives will tell you there hasn't been much discussion on this particular list of late but, who knows, you might be able to stir up a lively debate. When first subscribing to these Mailing Lists (or perhaps before deciding to subscribe) check out the list browseable (threaded) archives to help determine if the list discussions might be helpful for you, and search the searchable archives to see whether specific subject matter has already been discussed on the list. See whether the soldiers who arrived with Lafayette have been discussed, for instance. Start here for the browseable archives: http://archiver.rootsweb.com/ Type in the list name and select the month/year you wish to view. The searchable list archives are located here: http://listsearches.rootsweb.com/cgi-bin/listsearch.pl Type in the list name and select a year and keyword or words to search. 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Alternately you can browse/navigate to a Message Board: Start on the main page at the URL (web address) listed above. Message boards are divided into categories (designated by yellow file folder icons), which are further broken down into subcategories in what is a nested hierarchy of folders. As is the case with Mailing Lists, there are Message Boards for almost every genealogy-related purpose and need. If all else fails, and you still can't find Jean Pierre and Marie Teresia's European Roots, you can always give PSYCHIC-ROOTS- L@rootsweb.com a try, or turn to the list of last resort: UFO-ROOTS-L@rootsweb.com where you can return to your pursuit of the Mother Ship. RootsWeb has a list for EVERY aspect of your genealogical research. * * * 1b. UPCOMING ONLINE CLASSES: Each class is only $29.95 with a 30-day subscription including Ancestry's online census images. Instructors cover eight lessons, two lessons a week. You can work at your own pace on your own schedule. 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Starts August 22. http://ancestry.myfamily.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=3561&sourceid=481 Slovak Beginning Research Class. Starts August 24. http://ancestry.myfamily.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4477&sourceid=481 * * * 1c. TIPS FROM READERS. Dating Tips for Genealogists Thanks to: Alwyn ap Huw Humphreys AlwynapHuw@aol.com Most of us can work out that both 19.09.1913 and 09.19.1913 are the nineteenth of November, based on the fact that there isn't a 19th month (see I'm not just good-looking, I'm clever too). Where confusion can arise is with dates such as 06.08.1953 -- is this "October sixth" or "the eighth of June"? The easiest way to avoid such confusion is to name the month: 12th January 1847 or January 12, 1847. We may have our preferences and even our prejudices about which is the "proper" form, but at least those who have differing views are in no doubt about the date we are referring to. 2. Connecting Through RootsWeb. Thanks for sharing your stories. ---------------------------------------------------------------- Reuniting Families By Carol Braly markbraly@my.amigo.net I am still rather a newbie at genealogy, having tinkered around in it for just about three years. I've had quite a lot of success, but in my own maternal and paternal lines much had already been documented by others. However, two years ago, when I decided to dive into finding my husband's maternal ancestors, the going became suddenly slow and rocky. His parents were divorced when he was six, and his father kept custody of the children (two boys). As folks began to pass on, histories and records became lost forever. I first gathered as much information as I could from my husband and his brother. Their recollections were fuzzy at best as they were six and 10 when they began to lose touch with their maternal relatives, and they are now in their 60s. Based on what little I did know, I began to accumulate records from the state they had lived in at the time -- Texas, and just kept trying to establish a connection from whatever I could find on the Web. If not for RootsWeb, I would still be on square one. Little by little, they began to appear, the grandfather, the grand- mother, various aunts, etc. A trip to the old home town turned up graves, of which I now have pictures. Then last November, the brick wall broke down. On my birthday I received a message in response to a query I had posted on a Pennsylvania board. "Yes," the message said, "I know these people, they are my cousins!" The very next day we were in touch via e-mail, and those messages fairly flew! My husband has first cousins he did not know existed, who are alive and well across the country from us. With this discovery came also the knowledge that one of these cousins has the family Bible. In September we will all meet each other here at our Colorado mountain home. The cousins from Pennsylvania, the brother from California, a first cousin once removed (1C1R), from Arizona, and my stepson from Kansas, will all gather to meet, tell stories, look at pictures and just get to know one another. What an incredible gift we have all been given. Thank you, RootsWeb, and all of the volunteers who make this possible. ======================= Paid Advertisements ======================== Ancestry Members Special Free pack of 6"x4" Premium Glossy Photo Paper with any order http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4680&sourceid=7108 Print out your family photos for less. Save up to 80% on black and color inkjet cartridges, plus, get a pack of premium glossy photo paper -- a $7.99 value -- FREE with your order. http://www.ancestry.com/rd/redir.asp?targetid=4680&sourceid=7108 * * * What better way to celebrate your family, than locating and claiming your lost family fortune? You may have an insurance policy or inheritance that may be unclaimed. 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When your new, updated, or substantially revised personal pages located at RootsWeb (they will have "freepages" or "homepages" in the URL) are up and ready for visitors, please send the URL (Web address), along with a brief description, including the major pertinent surnames and what is available on your site, to: Editor-RWR@rootsweb.com FLORIDA INDIAN WAR. A brief history of this war, which is also known as the Seminole War. http://homepages.rootsweb.com/~cmddlton/flwr.html NELSON, CHRISTENSEN. Photos of the NELSON and CHRISTENSEN families of South Dakota. Photos taken in 1900s, 1920s and 1930s. Request help in identifying these people. [Note: This is a 2-line URL!] http://freepages.family.rootsweb.com/~ollis/nelson/photo-album/ photo-album.htm SOLON. "Solon Searchings." Information on the SOLON family, including many census and vital records. http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~solon/solon.htm 7. FROM ROOTSWEB REVIEW'S BOTTOMLESS MAILBAG [Editor's note: The opinions expressed herein are those of the authors and are not necessarily those of the editor or of RootsWeb.com]. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Baiting the Hook By Sue Bodishbaugh suebod@tampabay.rr.com I was 30 when my Uncle Bill came to Florida to visit. He had a 3-ring notebook of papers with him and we sat on my mom's couch as he asked questions about my husband, my children and me. I was amazed I couldn't answer some questions about my own husband. Everyone else was ready to grab the fishing poles and hit the beaches, but I sat and watched him fill out little squares and connect lines and pages. It fascinated me. When he showed me a full descendancy chart, that was it. I was hooked. Over the years I literally sat at his feet and listened spellbound as he lectured and told stories of his own searches, results, twists in a search, surprise findings, how he'd untangled a puzzle, how you had to know history to be a genealogist because our folks from Indiana were actually from the Ohio Territory, because back then, Indiana was a wild frontier land, and considered "way out west." My Florida-to-Georgia phone bills were sky high and we kept the USPS in business with letters and copies of Family Group Sheets. When computers came about, Uncle Bill jumped in at age 50+, mastered them and the programs, began to write books and publish, presided over local genealogical societies and managed to fit me in for private lessons. Not once did he make me feel I was bothering him or inter- rupting his busy schedule. I'm now 50+ and know I was lucky to have Uncle Bill as a teacher. Later, when he knew he was dying, almost to his last breath, my aunt and cousin sat on each side of him, helping him sit upright at the computer so he could finalize the last book he was working on. It gave him joy, peace, something to look forward to through the pain of cancer -- a feeling of accomplishment and worth. He was William Rogers Henry -- Uncle Bill. Today, as each of my grandchildren hits the fifth grade in school, I get ready for my call. The name of the class is different with each school, but the format is the same. One class name is "Me, Myself and I." Here, children learn about who they are, what they like, their heritage and background. They have to do an ancestral chart as fully as possible and tell something about their family, whatever the structure might be. I'll admit my grandchildren didn't retain a whole lot of the vast family tree after the semester, but I found if I told them a story connected to a certain ancestor, they could relate: "Grandma Susannah was captured by Indians, with her tiny baby in her arms. They took her far away to another territory. Her husband came home and then he tracked them down through the woods. Early in the morning he and his friends sneaked up to the camp and shot the Indians, rescued his wife and baby and took them home!" "Grandpa Joel was a 14-year-old Cherokee boy with dark hair just like you. He had to leave his home and the woods and trees he loved. It was so sad. But he was a good driver and he got to drive a wagon by himself all the way to Arkansas! That's how your grandpa's family got to Arkansas." One day, totally out of the blue, the singing of "Old Susannah," on the radio or something else triggers a memory and they ask, "Oh, Granny, is that the grandmother who our grandpa rescued from the Indians?" Usually it isn't at all, but it tells me they heard and retained something of what I said. Maybe, in years to come, who knows? They might want to know more about that lady Susannah and go looking in my notes or someone else's, and find they enjoy the search. You never know. You have to bait the hook to catch a fish. 8. Humor/Humour: VAN GOGHs: A Family Portrait -------------------------------------------------------- Thanks to: Lynda Webster lkwebster@mindspring.com She reports more VAN GOGH relatives have been found: They include: The Australian cousin -- Ding Goh The Jamaican cousin -- Mon Gogh The American chiropractic granduncle -- Lumba Gogh The long gone English cousin -- Bye Gogh The snail-eating French cousin -- S. Car Gogh In the event you missed the original names dangling on the Van Gogh family tree, you can find them in back issues of Missing Links at: http://www.petuniapress.com/ml/19980130.txt http://www.petuniapress.com/ml/19980206.txt 9. Submission Guidelines, Advertising Contacts, Reprint Policy ----------------------------------------------------------------------- The RootsWeb Review does not publish or answer genealogical queries, and the editor regrets that she is unable to provide any personal research assistance or advice. RootsWeb Review welcomes short (500 words or less) articles, humor, stories, or letters, and reserves the right to edit all submissions. All mail sent to the RootsWeb Review editor is considered to be for publication -- send in plain ASCII text (please, no attachments) to: Editor-RWR@rootsweb.com * * * ROOTSWEB REVIEW ADVERTISING CONTACTS: Ad Sales Operations Mgr. 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If you cannot read the newsletter below, please click on the following link. www.myfamily.com/html/CM/News/weekly/030730.html This issue brought to you by reunion July 30, 2003 Getting Started: The Remember My Password Feature Photos: From Germany, Texas, and British Columbia Chat: Comments from our Readers Recipes: Carrot Cake, Cheese Dip, and More On MyFamily: Looking for Someone? Online Classes: Online Classes on Genealogy Topics Calendar: Upcoming Events and Topics View this Newsletter Online Getting Started This how-to piece about using your MyFamily login is a re-run from a January 2003 newsletter. We have so many new newsletter readers we thought this would be helpful. We occasionally get messages from people who wish they didn't have to enter their username and password each time they visit their MyFamily.com site. If you have ever felt this way, may we suggest the "Remember my password" check box on the login page. 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From the kitchen of Bob In Daytona Beach, Florida A Reader Question Last week, we ran several recipes for Cornmeal Dumpling. We received this question from Ann and Rod Sarsfield of Liverpool, United Kingdom, "What is the UK equivalent to your corn meal? We have searched our books without success." Please write in if you know the answer. Request for Green Grape Pie We also have another request from Dorothy Mercer: "My great grandmother moved with her husband and children from Kentucky to homestead land in Oklahoma in 1900. As my mother was growing up, she and her grandmother used to gather immature (before the seed formed) wild green grapes along Wolf Creek in western Oklahoma to make green grape pie. It was a big favorite of the family. We were never able find enough immature green grapes to make a pie like that in the more arid Panhandle, so I never learned the recipe or ate the pie. Now that I live in Virginia, I have found wild grapes in sufficient quantities, but I do not know how to use them. Does anyone have a recipe for making pies from immature wild green grapes? Blue Cheese Dip Please find my recipe for blue cheese dip that is very different. Even people that wouldn't eat blue cheese love this dip. 2 eight-ounce packages of cream cheese (not low fat) 6-8 ounce of Gorgonzola Cheese (I use 8 ounce) 1/3 mounded cup of baking apples chopped coarsely 1 tablespoon of grated onion 1/2 teaspoon of worchester sauce dash of granulated garlic (not salt) 1/3 heaping cup of coarsely ground pecans Soften cream cheese and Gorgonzola Cheese and blend all together with other ingredients. It's important to use Gorgonzola Cheese for its rich flavor. Spread in 9 inch plate. Smooth top and decorate with unbroken pecan pieces in a design of your choice. Bake at 325 degrees for 20 to 25 minutes until hot and bubbly around edges. 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PRETTY INTERESTING YES ? In light of the many perversions and jokes we send to one another for a laugh, this is a little different: This is not intended to be a joke, it's not funny, it's intended to get you thinking. Billy Graham's daughter was interviewed on the Early Show and Jane Clayson asked her "How could God let something like this happen?" (regarding the attacks on Sept. 11). Anne Graham gave an extremely profound and insightful response. She said "I believe God is deeply saddened by this, just as we are, but for years we've been telling God to get out of our schools, to get out of our government and to get out of our lives. And being the gentleman He is, I believe He has calmly backed out. How can we expect God to give us His blessing and His protection if we demand He leave us alone?" In light of recent events...terrorists attack, school shootings, etc. I think it started when Madeleine Murray O'Hare (she was murdered, her body found recently) complained she didn't want prayer in our schools, and we said OK. Then someone said you better not read the Bible in school ... the Bible says thou shalt not kill, thou shalt not steal, and love your neighbor as yourself. And we said OK. Then Dr. Benjamin Spock said we shouldn't spank our children when they misbehave because their little personalities would be warped and we might damage their self-esteem (Dr. Spock's son committed suicide). We said an expert should know what he's talking about. And we said OK. Then someone said teachers and principals better not discipline our children when they misbehave. The school administrators said no faculty member in this school better touch a student when they misbehave because we don't want any bad publicity, and we surely don't want to be sued (there's a big difference between disciplining, touching, beating, smacking, humiliating, kicking, etc.). And we said OK. Then someone said, let's let our daughters have abortions if they want, and they won't even have to tell their parents. And we said OK. Then some wise school board member said, since boys will be boys and they're going to do it anyway, let's give our sons all the condoms they want so they can have all the fun they desire, and we won't have to tell their parents they got them at school. And we said OK. Then some of our top elected officials said it doesn't matter what we do in private as long as we do our jobs. Agreeing with them, we said it doesn't matter to me what anyone, including the President, does in private as long as I have a job and the economy is good. Then someone said let's print magazines with pictures of nude women and call it wholesome, down-to-earth appreciation for the beauty of the female body. And we said OK. And then someone else took that appreciation a step further and published pictures of nude children and then further again by making them available on the Internet. And we said OK, they're entitled to free speech. Then the entertainment industry said, let's make TV shows and movies that promote profanity, violence, and illicit sex. Let's record music that encourages rape, drugs, murder, suicide, and satanic themes. And we said it's just entertainment, it has no adverse effect, nobody takes it seriously anyway, so go right ahead. Now we're asking ourselves why our children have no conscience, why they don't know right from wrong, and why it doesn't bother them to kill strangers, their classmates, and themselves. Probably, if we think about it long and hard enough, we can figure it out. I think it has a great deal to do with "WE REAP WHAT WE SOW." Funny how simple it is for people to trash God and then wonder why the world's going to hell. Funny how we believe what the newspapers say, but question what the Bible says. Funny how you can send 'jokes' through e-mail and they spread like wildfire but when you start sending messages regarding the Lord, people think twice about sharing. Funny how lewd, crude, vulgar and obscene articles pass freely through cyberspace, but public discussion of God is suppressed in the school and workplace. Are you laughing? Funny how when you forward this message, you will not send it to many on your address list because you're not sure what they believe, or what they WILL think of you for sending it. Funny how we can be more worried about what other people think of us than what God thinks of us. Pass it on if you think it has merit. If not then just discard it... no one will know you did. But, if you discard this thought process, don't sit back and complain about what bad shape the world is in! This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm rrhaymaker 07/29/03

Brother Bob, I got the Mrs. home safe again. She still need medicine and iron pills and vitamine suppliments, but she is doing a lot better. The Dr. talked to he about me. She told her basicaly what she told me but with emphisis. She said the kidney Dr. (not the surgeon) feel pretty sure that the growth on my kidney is canceres. My Dr. and the lung Dr, feel that I can not survive surgery at this time. They want to wait a few weeks and do an MRI and then go from there. All three Drs are worried about this operation. The surgeon that had wanted to do the operation: will not be the one to do it. He kept calling my Dr. and the lung Dr. and insisting I have it done right away. My Dr. told him that I was not strong enough at this time. She also told him he would not be the one doing the operation. That if she (my Dr.) need his services she will call him: and to stop pestering her and the lung Dr. about the operation. I told her when I was in the hospital that I felt that guy was just in it for the money. He would not care at all if his patient died or not: as long as he was paid. She said at that time that that was not true. Now she is saying the same thing. Did some work in the bedroom today. Had to take apart the bed and move a few things. My nephew and my daughter Tammy helped. Then the guys came and set up my hospital bed. I feel like I have been ran over by a mack truck. Don't know if it is the news about the kidney that is making my back hurt in the kidney area. But it sure is hurting. Last night it was hurting too. But now my wife know too. I generally don't tell her all the report. She worries too much as it is. Last night I took a percoset and two sleeping pills and washed them down with a large glass of votka from the neighbor. I ain't use to drinking as I quit about 15 years ago. But that did not even make me sleep. I am afraid to go to sleep for fear I will stop breathing. God Bless you and Yours. P.S. How is your neighbor Jim? rrhaymaker 07/28/03

To All, Grammy has returned home. They only kept her until she was given 2 units of blood and her blood count was raised to 8. It should be 12. She has to take the rest of the week off, on Dr's orders. Thank-you for the prayers !! Pappy

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***Media Research Center CyberAlert*** 10:30am EDT, Monday July 28, 2003 (Vol. Eight; No. 141) The 1,548th CyberAlert. Tracking Liberal Media Bias Since 1996 > Clift Suggests Sons Killed to Silence Them on Lack of WMD > CBS Seeks Out Soldier's Mother Who Feels Bush "Betrayed" Her > NBC: Handling of Sons "Quite Offensive to Islamic Sensibilities" > Negative Reports Out of Iraq Versus Much More Positive Reality > CBS & ABC Again Mis-Portray Liberal Activist Seniors as Typical #### Distributed to more than 14,000 subscribers by the Media Research Center, bringing political balance to the news media since 1987. The MRC is the leader in documenting, exposing and neutralizing liberal media bias. Visit the MRC on the Web: http://www.mediaresearch.org. CyberAlerts from this year are at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/welcome.asp For 2002: http://www.mediaresearch.org/archive/cyber/archive02.asp Subscribe/unsubscribe information, as well as a link to the MRC donations page, are at the end of this message. When posted, this CyberAlert will be readable at: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030728.asp #### 1) Uday and Qusay killed to keep them silent on lack of WMD? Newsweek's Eleanor Clift suggested on the McLaughlin Group over the weekend that the in killing Uday and Qusay Hussein, "two intelligence assets who could potentially lead us to the weapons of mass destruction," the Bush administration "surrendered a major opportunity to uncover" those weapons "unless," she added nefariously, "they don't believe those weapons are there." 2) CBS painted President Bush as just as dishonest as President Clinton. For a Sunday night story, CBS News sought out and showcased the mother of a soldier who proclaimed she's "tired of not being able to believe my President." Her message for Bush: "I trusted you. You betrayed me." Reporter Joie Chen portrayed her as representative of how as soldiers die "day by day" in Iraq, "the concerns, and the doubts, of many of the folks back home grow." 3) NBC's Richard Engel offered a more sweeping scolding than did other reporters of the U.S. for laying out for video cameras the bodies of Uday and Qusay Hussein. He called the decision "controversial" and insisted "all of this has been quite offensive to Islamic sensibilities here. Muslims are generally buried in a simple white shroud without any embalming process at all." 4) "America is winning the war in Iraq," but CBS's Byron Pitts claimed on Friday night, it "hasn't yet won over her people." In this week's Weekly Standard, however, after a trip to Iraq, Stephen Hayes concluded that "most Iraqis are overjoyed about their liberation." Hayes also contradicted a Washington Post story which insisted that Iraq is "a country deeply unsure if the military occupation is better than his [Saddam's] dictatorship." And on Fox News Sunday, Brit Hume raised with Deputy Defense Secretary Paul Wolfowitz the disconnect between the "much more optimistic picture of the state of play in Iraq" that he paints and what "anyone reading the front pages of the newspapers and watching news broadcasts in this country would get." 5) In the wake of the House passing a bill on Friday to allow the re-importation of prescription drugs from other nations, CBS and ABC again showcased liberal, big government spending senior activists, but cast them as just average seniors struggling to afford their prescriptions. > 1) Uday and Qusay killed to keep them silent on lack of WMD? Newsweek's Eleanor Clift suggested on the McLaughlin Group over the weekend that the in killing Uday and Qusay Hussein, "two intelligence assets who could potentially lead us to the weapons of mass destruction," the Bush administration "surrendered a major opportunity to uncover" those weapons "unless," she added nefariously, "they don't believe those weapons are there." Later, she equated President Bush's State of the Union line about Iraq "seeking" uranium in Africa with the tape erasure in the Nixon White House: "The 16 words are taking on the aura of the 18-minute gap under a former President." On the deaths of Saddam Hussein's sons, Clift argued: "The way they went sent another message. You don't send in a TOW missile if you want to capture them alive. And these are two intelligence assets who could potentially lead us to the weapons of mass destruction. And the fact that the administration really made very little attempt to take them alive -- they wanted to spare themselves the headache of a trial -- but they also surrendered a major opportunity to uncover the real reason we went to war -- unless they don't believe those weapons are there." In her weekly MSNBC.com column on Friday, Clift offered a less accusatory version of the same theme, arguing that finding the weapons of mass destruction "would be such a huge win for the administration that you would think they would have gone to greater lengths to take Uday and Qusay alive." An excerpt from Clift's July 25 column on MSNBC.com: ....The war in Iraq was fought to disarm Saddam, but the way the commanders on the ground went in after Uday and Qusay shows the administration is not serious about finding weapons of mass destruction. These were the two best intelligence assets, short of Saddam, that the administration could capture. U.S. troops offered them a chance to surrender, and then called in a barrage from helicopter gunships. By killing the brothers, the administration saved itself the headache of a trial but lost the opportunity to prove a link with Al Qaeda or solve the mystery of the missing WMD. I don't necessarily quarrel with the decision. Bringing peace and a new order to Iraq would be harder with Saddam's sons alive. But if the Bush administration really were looking for WMD, these two men were key. It increasingly looks as though the WMD have disappeared. They may be scattered and already in the hands of terrorists. Saddam could have destroyed them before the war, or years earlier, and simply was bluffing to menace his neighbors. Or they could be buried somewhere. Finding them would be such a huge win for the administration that you would think they would have gone to greater lengths to take Uday and Qusay alive.... END of Excerpt For Clift's piece in full: http://www.msnbc.com/news/944207.asp?0cv=KB20 > 2) CBS painted President Bush as just as dishonest as President Clinton. For a Sunday night story, CBS News sought out and showcased the mother of a soldier who proclaimed she's "tired of not being able to believe my President." Her message for Bush: "I trusted you. You betrayed me." Reporter Joie Chen portrayed her as representative of how as soldiers die "day by day" in Iraq, "the concerns, and the doubts, of many of the folks back home grow." As CBS went back and forth between video of Bush on the aircraft carrier and pictures of those killed in Iraq since then, Chen described the woman and her husband as formerly "ardent Bush supporters" who "now suspect the White House overstated its case to justify the war." Chen began her July 27 CBS Evening News story by noting how "day by day, as one more U.S. soldier is remembered, as another is lost, the concerns, and the doubts, of many of the folks back home grow." Ada Laverne Bodnar of Virginia Beach, mother of a soldier in Iraq: "Who can I believe? Who can I believe? And I'm supposed to be able to believe the President. I'm tired of not being able to believe my President." Chen: "Ada Bodnar said she's always trusted the government...." Chen explained how Bodnar's son, Christopher, is an MP in Baghdad. Eve Bodnar read from one of his letters home: "'I'm kind of scared of my future here because people are being captured and killed.'" She added: "Christopher has been very depressed over there. He says that they, to relieve tension, they scream in their pillow." Christopher's father related how his son has seen things to horrible to describe. Then, over video switching between Bush on the aircraft carrier and a collage of photos of servicemen who have died in Iraq since that May 1 event, Chen intoned: "The Bodnar's watched as President Bush declared the mission accomplished on May 1st, but they've also watched as almost every day since brings a report of another U.S. soldier killed or wounded in Iraq -- more than one hundred dead, 49 killed in action. Once ardent Bush supporters, the Bodnars now suspect the White House overstated its case to justify the war. They have nagging suspicions about how long this mission is going to take and why the President sent Americans in the first place. Ada Bodnar has a message for him:" Bodnar: "For the President, 'I trusted you. You betrayed me. I still want to believe in you.'" Chen concluded: "The worn yellow ribbon remains tied outside the Bodnar's home. The family says it will stay until Christopher returns. They hope it will be soon." > 3) NBC's Richard Engel offered a more sweeping scolding than did other reporters of the U.S. for laying out for video cameras the bodies of Uday and Qusay Hussein. He called the decision "controversial" and insisted "all of this has been quite offensive to Islamic sensibilities here. Muslims are generally buried in a simple white shroud without any embalming process at all." On Friday's NBC Nightly News, Tom Brokaw asked Engel in Baghdad: "Richard, as you well know, there's fresh video tonight as well of the bodies of Saddam's two sons after they were cleaned up by Army morticians. We want to warn everybody, the images are still very graphic, but are those new images any more persuasive to the Iraqi people?" Richard suggested the U.S. messed up again: "They are not really more persuasive. But they certainly are more controversial. These bodies were quite radically altered. First, the men were shaved, then putty was used to remodel their faces, make-up was also applied to make them look more life-like. The Americans, however, say these are certainly the men and even displayed a metal plate that bears the identical serial number to a plate that was inserted in Uday's leg after an assassination attempt in the 1990s. All of this has been quite offensive to Islamic sensibilities here. Muslims are generally buried in a simple white shroud without any embalming process at all, Tom." > 4) "America is winning the war in Iraq," but CBS's Byron Pitts claimed on Friday night, it "hasn't yet won over her people." In this week's Weekly Standard, however, after accompanying Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz in a trip to Iraq, Stephen Hayes concluded that "most Iraqis are overjoyed about their liberation." What Hayes found also did not correlate with a Washington Post story which insisted that Iraq is "a country deeply unsure if the military occupation is better than his [Saddam Hussein's] dictatorship." And on Fox News Sunday, Brit Hume raised with Wolfowitz the disconnect between the "much more optimistic picture of the state of play in Iraq" that he paints and what "anyone reading the front pages of the newspapers and watching news broadcasts in this country would get." Concluding a July 25 CBS Evening News story from Baghdad, Byron Pitts looked at how, even after seeing videotape of the bodies of Uday and Qusay, many in Iraq still don't believe they are dead because they've been "taught for years to not believe Americans." Pitts then concluded: "So for many here, today's episode with the videotape of Uday and Qusay Hussein, is one more reminder America is winning the war in Iraq, but as of now, hasn't yet won over her people." In this week's Weekly Standard, however, Stephen Hayes provided a more hopeful picture of Iraqi attitudes toward the U.S. and U.S. soldiers. An excerpt from his story, "Of Prisons and Palaces: Notes from a liberated Iraq," in the August 4/August 11 special summer double week edition of the magazine: ...One might expect a visit to Abu Ghirab would stir reflections on the most profound matters -- the nature of evil, the existence of God. Instead, I could not shake words I'd read in the Washington Post of July 15, 2003, the day before I'd left for Iraq. Reporting on the likelihood of stepped-up attacks on coalition forces on July 17, a national holiday under the previous regime, Kevin Sullivan wrote: "Although Iraq's new Governing Council's first official action was to abolish Hussein-era holidays, July 17 still stands for Saddam in a country deeply unsure if the military occupation is better than his dictatorship." A country deeply unsure if the military occupation is better than his dictatorship. Could this be true? What about the question put so well in a headline over a column by Michael Kelly in that same newspaper just weeks before his untimely death: "Who Would Choose Tyranny?" Could it be that Iraqis might actually prefer despotism to freedom, so long as the despot was one of their own? Judging from dozens of interviews with Iraqis, U.S. soldiers, and representatives of humanitarian and aid groups over the course of our trip, the answer is no. Most Iraqis are overjoyed about their liberation. The American troops I spoke with, even those from units that have suffered postwar casualties, said they have received a warm welcome from their hosts. But most surprising were the strong words of praise for postwar Iraq from NGO leaders. If even some of what this delegation heard is true, the reconstruction of Iraq is going much better than reports in the American media suggest. In Najaf on July 19, Wolfowitz met with the new city council. In this Shiite holy city, as elsewhere throughout the country, Iraqis had a two-part message. "You have done tremendous things for Iraq," said Haydar al Mayalli, the interim governor. "You still have a heavy responsibility towards our country. You have commitments that must be filled to the Iraqi people. And we are grateful that you have opened the door to democracy and freedom." A local sheikh spoke next. "By destroying the instruments of terrorism and the Baath party, the people of Najaf breathe in relief," he said. He listed infrastructure, electricity, water, and security as Najaf's most pressing needs, before reminding Wolfowitz of the stakes. "The world is watching you to see what you do." Wolfowitz acknowledged the importance of the transition and complimented those on the council for their participation. "We know that the people of the south -- particularly this city -- have suffered more than others. For their memory, we have an obligation to succeed in the tasks you described. The great cities for Shia Islam are setting a model for democratic Iraq." The council in Najaf had been in existence for just two weeks. Its 22 members were elected from a larger group assembled from leaders of the brand new professional associations and civic organizations that are springing up, alongside new political parties, unions, and religious groups. It is an encouraging first step. Similar councils exist in most major cities in Iraq, including Basra, Karbala, Baghdad, Mosul, and Kirkuk. In Kirkuk, an oil-rich city in the north, coalition officials brought together a delegation of 300 local leaders representing each of the religious and ethnic groups in the city. That group then elected an interim council of 30 members, which in turn picked a mayor, a deputy mayor, and three assistant mayors. That was two months ago. Wolfowitz met with the council on July 21. "I would like to express my thanks to you and George Bush for taking this courageous decision," said Kamal Kirkuki, a Kurdish assistant mayor, "even though some other nations objected and the United Nations did nothing to liberate us from this tyrant." Here, too, Wolfowitz was greeted with a mix of gratitude and pleas for help. Asked Dr. Amed Nasser Azzo, a council member, "When is it possible to establish media in Iraq to compete with Arab satellite television that agitates for instability in Iraq?"... END of Excerpt For the piece by Hayes in full: http://www.weeklystandard.com/Content/Public/Articles/000/000/002/936wfkzy.asp Picking up on a similar theme of excessive media negativism, Brit Hume, sitting in for Tony Snow, asked Wolfowitz on the July 27 Fox News Sunday: "You paint a much more optimistic picture of the state of play in Iraq than anyone reading the front pages of the newspapers and watching news broadcasts in this country would get. Partially, I suspect, that's because of the trickle of reports of American casualties, but also other reports of resistance, as well. What is the news media, what are the news media in this country missing?" Wolfowitz answered: "I think the success stories. It's a country that's not easy to get around in, admittedly, and it's not easy to understand. There's a language problem, to begin with. And I don't want to paint a rosy picture; there are real problems. The security problem is real, and the security problem is making it difficult to solve other problems like getting the power and electricity restored. "But when we visited Najaf, for example, where a relatively small Marine unit is preserving a quite stable situation, not perfect situation, but quite stable, in a city of half a million Shia, who some people predicted would be a huge problem, you had a cameraman there, and I asked if he'd been here before, and he said no, he hadn't, he'd been up north where the fighting's going on, but he hadn't been in the south. And the Marines told me, yes, there was a CNN cameraman who's come here once in the last month, and that was when a Marine was killed. "It's a hard story to cover, but frankly, I think, maybe success people think isn't as good news. "But the south of the country is largely stable. This is the Shia heartland, which some people predicated would be big trouble. The north of the country is largely stable. This is the country where you have a potentially volatile ethnic mixture of Kurds and Turks and Arabs, and some people predicted that would be trouble. Where we're having trouble -- and we're making progress even there -- is in this Baathist, Saddamist heartland, including his hometown of Tikrit, where the killers of the old regime are putting out $100 for someone to attack a power line and $500 for someone to attack an American. And that's where the trouble is coming from." > 5) In the wake of the House passing a bill on Friday to allow the re-importation of prescription drugs from other nations, CBS and ABC once again showcased liberal, big government spending senior activists, but cast them as just average seniors struggling to afford their prescriptions. On the July 25 CBS Evening News, over video of a border agent taking small boxes out of a bag and then of video looking out of a bus window, Joie Chen began a story: "It's scenes like these that pushed lawmakers to act, seniors crossing the borders into Canada and Mexico in search of cheaper drugs." Viola Quiron, identified on screen only s "Maine senior citizen": "We go to Canada to get our drugs because it's a big, big, big saving. I save, every time I go I save over a thousand dollars." Chen: "The savings can be significant..." Over on ABC's World News Tonight, Lisa Stark announced, over video of Barbara Kaufman loading her dishwasher: "Barbara Kaufman has high cholesterol, high blood pressure, diabetes, arthritis. She takes ten bills a day. Kaufman orders them online from Canada to save money." Barbara Kaufman, no other screen ID other than name: "At this point I spend about $300 a month on prescriptions. I was spending closer to $600 a month on prescriptions." But who are Quiron and Kaufman? As recounted in the July 15 CyberAlert, a story on CNSNews.com detailed how she's an activist from Maine who has testified on Capitol Hill on behalf of a left- wing group. And via Google, I found a page with a photo that matches Kaufman and identified her as a "spokesperson" for the Medicare Justice Coalition, "a grassroots, senior consumer coalition, founded by the Minnesota Senior Federation." See: http://www.mnseniors.net/mjckaufman.html It turns out, Kaufman is President of the Metropolitan Region for the Minnesota Senior Coalition. See: http://www.mnseniors.net/stateleadersdirectory.html According to their Web site, "the goals of the Medicare Justice Coalition are simple: "-- to increase the federal reimbursement for both fee-for-service and HMO medical providers for those counties and states which are now below average; and "-- to equalize benefits under the Medicare program. If payment for prescription drugs is available to some seniors, it should be available to all seniors." An excerpt from Kaufman's column in the August 2003 edition of the Minnesota Senior News in which she affirms her advocacy of an expansion of Medicare program run by government and denounces private insurance alternatives forwarded by conservatives: If you've been reading the paper lately, you know Congress is working on its perennial Medicare prescription drug benefit. While most folks I talk to want a drug benefit included in Medicare, they don't want just any old proposal. People want a program that will benefit them. It's unfortunate that many features will have limited -- if any -- benefits for the average senior. Programs being discussed appear to be entirely separate from Medicare, offered by a separate insurance company. It's important to keep a close eye on features of a proposed prescription drug program. Prescriptions are an important a part of medical care and Medicare without a prescription drug program is inadequate. It is failing to meet the needs of seniors. Criteria established by the Minnesota Senior Federation must be incorporated into any Medicare drug plan to ensure that it provides a meaningful benefit to seniors. It must: -- provide a defined benefit under Medicare, available to all beneficiaries; -- be available under both traditional fee-for-service Medicare and Medicare+ Choice managed care; -- have no gaps in coverage leaving seniors uncovered after they spend a specified amount on prescriptions; -- have affordable premiums and copays; -- provide incentives for employers to maintain drug coverage for employees and retirees; -- provide for negotiation with drug manufacturers for reasonable prescription drug prices; and -- maintain competition by allowing importation of lower-priced prescription drugs from other industrialized nations.... END of Excerpt That's online at: http://www.mnseniors.net/0308snaug/kaufman.html On CBS's favorite senior, Viola Quiron (how CBS spelled it), or Quirion (how CNSNews.com spelled it), a repeat recitation from the July 15 CyberAlert of a July 14 story by Marc Morano of the MRC's CNSNews.com, "Networks Blamed for Using Political Activists as Repeat 'Victims.'" The excerpt: An elderly political activist who was repeatedly portrayed by CBS News as a typical victim of the high cost of prescription drugs, now admits the network "probably" should have disclosed her lobbying interests during her numerous on-air appearances. Viola Quirion, who favors the Medicare reforms that would provide elderly Americans like herself with a federally subsidized prescription drug plan, might not be considered a typical senior citizen to many people -- given her extensive political lobbying background, which includes advocating on behalf of the Alliance for Retired Persons. But that's the way she was portrayed by CBS News on at least three occasions since 1999 -- most recently in May of this year. When asked by CNSNews.com whether CBS News should have identified her as a political activist for reasons of fairness and accuracy, Quirion responded: "Well, probably." Quirion has testified on Capitol Hill on behalf of the Alliance for Retired Americans. The group's stated goal is to "ensure social and economic justice" by "enroll[ing] and mobiliz[ing] retired union members and other senior and community activists into a nationwide grassroots movement advocating a progressive political and social agenda." Quirion, who is a member of the Maine Council of Senior Citizens, also participated in the state of Maine's successful legal defense of its drug price control plan. Yet, CBS News never revealed any of Quirion's background when using her as a source in its news stories. But Quirion maintains that her appearances on CBS News were benign. "I just got interviewed and answered their questions and that's it," she explained.... In June, the Media Research Center (MRC), the parent organization of CNSNews.com, exposed the practice of network news programs recycling senior citizen activists for health care policy debates. The MRC revealed that both the CBS Evening News and ABC World News Tonight featured senior citizen Eva Baer-Schenkein in two separate broadcasts, two years apart, complaining about different ailments and why the Republican prescription drug plan was inadequate. ....CBS News appears to have repeatedly failed to reveal the backgrounds of its interview subjects, according to a new study conducted by the website, www.RatherBiased.com. The network featured the same seven elderly women 23 times during its coverage of the prescription drug subsidy debate without disclosing the political activist backgrounds of the women, the study alleged.... CBS spokeswoman Sandy Genelius told CNSNews.com that the network would "check it out," referring to the network's repeated use of the same senior citizen activists. However after several days of phone calls and e-mails, Genelius failed to respond to questions for this article. END of Excerpt For the article in full: http://www.cnsnews.com/ViewNation.asp?Page=\Nation\archive\200307\NAT20030714a.html Previous CyberAlert items on the networks portraying liberal activists as typical seniors: -- What a coincidence. Two years apart CBS News and ABC News featured the same elderly woman, in news stories about the need for a new prescription drug coverage program in Medicare and the shortcomings of Republican-pushed alternatives, as the poster victim of high prescription prices. See: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030619.asp#5 -- More evidence that the supposedly typical victims of high prescription costs featured by the networks are hardly average seniors. They are really political activists who are part of a political lobbying campaign by a liberal group, the AARP, which consistently pushes for ever bigger government and more spending. NBC's Norah O'Donnell highlighted this victim: "77-year-old Pat Roussos of Connecticut, who suffers from arthritis, diabetes and high blood pressure. Her out-of-pocket drug costs now, as much as $6,500 a year." But, Roussos is really a top dog in an AARP state chapter. See: http://www.mediaresearch.org/cyberalerts/2003/cyb20030627.asp#3 -- Brent Baker >>> Support the MRC, an educational foundation dependent upon contributions which make CyberAlert possible, by providing a tax- deductible donation. Be sure to fill in "CyberAlert" in the field which asks: "What led you to become a member or donate today?" 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From a relative in Mississippi greetings, Barbara ----- Original Message ----- Sent: Sunday, July 06, 2003 10:46 PM Subject: Watch your P's and Q's They Said THIS In the Church Bulletin? Heavens to Betsy! When you're spreading God's word, it's important to pay attention to commas and spelling and proper phrasing. If you don't, you may end up saying something other than what you really intended. And sometimes the result can be scandalous--or just funny as all get out. The following are excerpts from church bulletins nationwide. Preach it! --The sermon this morning: "Jesus Walks On the Water." The sermon tonight: "Searching For Jesus." --At the evening service tonight, the sermon topic will be "What Is Hell?" Come early and listen to our choir practice. Suffer the little children --Our youth basketball team is back in action Wednesday at 8 p.m. in the recreation hall. Come out and watch us kill Christ the King. --For those of you who have children and don't know it, we have a nursery downstairs. --Sunday School: Children will be led in sinning and Bible study. The Power of Prayer --Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our community. Smile at someone who is hard to love. Say "Hell" to someone who doesn't care much about you. --Don't let worry kill you. Let the church help. --Remember in prayer the many who are sick of our church and community. After the worship service... --This evening at 7 p.m. there will be a hymn sing in the park across from the church. Bring a blanket and come prepared to sin. --Bertha Belch, a missionary from Africa, will be speaking tonight at Calvary Methodist. Come hear Bertha Belch all the way from Africa. --The ladies of the church have cast off clothing of every kind. They may be seen in the basement on Friday afternoon. --Ladies, don't forget the rummage sale. It's a chance to get rid of those things not worth keeping around the house. Don't forget your husbands. --Ladies' Bible Study will be held Thursday at 10 a.m. All ladies are invited to lunch in the Fellowship Hall after the B.S. is done. --The pastor would appreciate it if the ladies of the congregation would lend him their electric girdles for the pancake breakfast next Sunday. Which Door Do I Use? --The Low Self-Esteem Support Group will meet Thursday at 7 p.m. Please use the back door. --Weight Watchers will meet at 7 p.m. at the First Presbyterian Church. Please use large double door at the side entrance. No Good Deed Will Go Unpunished --Scouts are saving aluminum cans, bottles, and other items to be recycled. Proceeds will be used to cripple children. --Please place your donation in the envelope along with the deceased person you want remembered. HOW Much Money Should I Give? --The associate minister unveiled the church's new tithing campaign slogan last Sunday: "I Upped My Pledge - Up Yours."

Brother Bob, Thank you for your thoughts, prayers and concerns. My wife should have done this a long time ago. When I spent that week in the hospital: the nurses told her to go to the ER and get addmitted. They would move my room mate out and her in with me. But she kept worring about work and money. I finally threatened to toss her over my shoulder and carry her the 3 miles to the ER. Even if it cost me my life. So she agreed to go. She knew I would gladly give my life to save her. She gets like this quite often. No medical coverage so she don't like going. I am lucky enough to have good coverage because I am on SSI. She looses blood somehow and they don't know where or how. She also has low iron and thyroid trouble. I gave her my oxygen last night and it helped her breathe. Jim, sure sounds like he is being through a rough time. His kids need to grow up and act like adults. All the confussion sure don't improve him or the sitchuation. If he lost all that blood, they may need to wait to do much. I will add him to my prayer list. When I am taken to the hospital: I tell jokes and tease anyone that comes near me. I always have an audiance and everyone laughs till their sides hurt. I was afraid that the day I could not remember much that I may have acted differently and even swore. But I ask everyone and they said even when I was near death, I joked with everyone. So when I do go I will be glad I can die laughing. Makes things a lot easier: than bellyaching and crying. I just sent the hospital adminastrator an e-mail telling him how great his workers are. I did not name any one by name; but where they worked an included all. I figure that if people have a gripe they would be there in a heartbeat. So why not give praise to all that deserve it. Being down like that: may be GOD'S doing. Perhaps you are to busy to pay attention his directions: so he knocks ya flat so he can talk to ya without you doing other stuff. If so then there is no need to worry. GOD will see ya through. And if not then it is your time. The Grimm Reaper can't touch till GOD says so. That's why I was able to put the screws to him. Even death is controlled by GOD. Well !! I guess I better quit while you still have ears. No need to talk yer ears off. Give my LOVE to all Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Grammy's hospital visit Brother Pappy! What is going on? Can't believe it. Every special friend I have seems to be giving the medical profession OVER TIME! My next door neighbor, JIM, I have mentioned him to you, is due to have at least one leg amputated tomorrow afternoon. There is a likely chance he may loose both. He has two daughters that are constantly trying to visit and do much of the time allowed and they are bickering and squalling so that no one else can get in to see him. He is to be operated on by the same heart surgeon that did Glenda's triple by pass. Just a week ago they tried to restore circulation to his legs by attaching some sort of artificial tube to get blood to his feet--- last night two of the stitches came loose and he lost a bunch of blood -- all over the place. Serious stuff. I am anxious for Vivian. I know she means a lot to you, as you do to her. You chatter on the E-mails tells me you need to relax a little bit more our you will be in the room next to Vivian. Gosh, I might be there too if it weren't so far. Just got back from North Carolina where Glenda spent another couple of days. So great to have her back! Love and prayers. Flustered, Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: howlingwolf816@aol.com Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:05 PM Subject: Grammy's hospital visit To All, My wife Vivian (Grammy) is in the hospital. Her blood count is down to 6. This is half of what it should be: so they are giving he blood. I would include rest: but anyone that has been in the hospital knows you get no rest there. Here is a link to sen an e-card http://leeregional.upmc.com/Services.htm Pappy

~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 7:28 PM Subject: Fw: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! ----- Original Message ----- From: gstevens To: sue wise ; Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. ; Richard Styers ; H. R. Armentrout ; Gloria Greenhagen ; Beatrice Bash Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:11 PM Subject: Fw: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! Gail Stevens ----- Original Message ----- From: tblevins To: CHARLES MATTINGLY ; Betty White ; Nascar24crazy@aol.com ; James Patrick ; dwilson@ekns.net ; Rhonda Campbell Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:45 PM Subject: Fw: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! ----- Original Message ----- From: CHARLES MATTINGLY To: looeyvillelady ; hvance1 ; whitneyraymer00 ; raymer00 ; tblevins Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 4:56 AM Subject: Fw: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! ----- Original Message ----- From: Vance, Roberta To: annmonhollon@aol.com ; mattingly4139@msn.com ; don.allena@juno.com ; Briggs, Loretta ; Hyre, Gena ; Carrender, Sandy Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 9:48 AM Subject: FW: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! -----Original Message----- From: Carrender, Sandy Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 7:40 AM To: Barr, Paula Cc: Allsmiller, Kathy; Butler, Gayle; Clark, Iretta; Day, Sammye; Dottie Casey; Gaytha Gipson; Gwara, Pat; Jones, Janet; Lawrence, Louise; Lovelace, Henrietta; Maureen Montgomery; Shirlsworld50@aol.com; Simon, Rose; Vance, Roberta Subject: FW: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! -----Original Message----- From: Barr, Paula Sent: Tuesday, July 22, 2003 2:29 PM To: Sandy Carrender (E-mail); Janice Neff (E-mail); Maeme Brock (E-mail); Phillis Logsdon (E-mail) Cc: Barr, Paula Subject: FW: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back!  -----Original Message----- From: Stephens, Brenda Sent: Tuesday, July 15, 2003 4:42 AM To: BEVERLY SMITH (E-mail); Connie Mcfarland (E-mail); Joan Gross (E-mail); Joyce Hicks (E-mail); Kerry Conklin (E-mail); MAEME BROCK (E-mail); PAULA BARR (E-mail); Stephanie Freenam (E-mail) Subject: FW: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back! -----Original Message----- From: [Stephens, Brenda] Subject: FW: This is sweet - I BeTTeR get it back Here it IS! Remember to FORWARD if you want the animation to show up. "Replying" will cancel it out when it is sent on. You MUST pass this rose on to at least 5 people within the hour of receiving this rose. You're My friend, my companion, through good times and bad my friend, my buddy, through happy and sad, beside me you stand, beside me you walk, you're there to listen, you're there to talk, with happiness, with smiles, with pain and tears, I know you'll be there, throughout the years! You are all good friends to me and I am grateful to you. Forward this to all your good friends on-line to show them you are friends. If you send this to: 1 person - you are lonely 2 people - you have a couple friends, but not many 3 people - you have a few friends... 4 people - you have some friends... 5 people - you have several friends!! 6 people - you have many friends!! 7 people - you are sooo loved!! This is sweet I better get it back! J Keep Smiling J Images Below

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Sunday, July 27, 2003 12:03 PM Subject: The Thrifty Woman A woman from the deepest, most southern part of Alabama goes into the local newspaper office to see that the obituary for her recently deceased husband is written. The obit editor informs her that the fee for the obituary is 50 cents a word. She pauses, reflects and then says, "Well, then, let it read,'Billy Bob died'." Amused at the woman's thrift, the editor says, "Sorry ma'am, there is a 7 word minimum on all obituaries." Only a little flustered, she thinks things over and in a few seconds says... "In that case, let i! t read, 'Billy Bob died - 1938 Pick-up for sale.'" Images Below

From: "Robert Ray Haymaker Sr." <pappy111567@charter.net> To: <Undisclosed-Recipient:;> Subject: hotel bill Date: Sun, 27 Jul 2003 19:26:36 -0400 Hotel bill Next time you think your hotel bill is too high...you might want to use this logic....... A husband and wife are traveling by car from Key West to Boston. After almost twenty-four hours on the road, they're too tired to continue, and they decide to stop for a rest. They stop at a nice hotel and take a room, but they only plan to sleep for four hours and then get back on the road. When they check out four hours later, the desk clerk hands them a bill for $350. The man explodes and demands to know why the charge is so high. He tells the clerk although it's a nice hotel, the rooms certainly aren't worth $350. When the clerk tells him $350 is the standard rate, the man insists on speaking to the Manager. The Manager appears, listens to the man, and then explains that the hotel has an Olympic- sized pool and a huge conference center that were available for the husband and wife to use. "But we didn't use them", the man complains. "Well, they are here, and you could have," explains the Manager. He goes on to explain that they could have taken in one of the shows for which the hotel is famous. "The best entertainers from New York, Hollywood and Las Vegas perform here," the Manager says. "But we didn't go to any of those shows," complains the man again. " Well, we have them, and you could have", the Manager replies. No matter what facility the Manager mentions, the man replies, "But we didn't use it!" The Manager is unmoved, and eventually the man gives up and agrees to pay. He writes a check and gives it to the Manager. The Manager is surprised when he looks at the check. "But sir," he says, "this check is only made out for $100." "That's right," says the man. "I charged you $250 for sleeping with my wife." "But I didn't!" exclaims the Manager. "Well," the man replies, "she was here, and you could have."

BLONDE PILOT A blonde pilot decided she wanted to learn how to fly a helicopter. She went to the airport, but the only one available was a solo-helicopter. The Instructor figured he could let her go up alone since she was already a pilot for small planes and he could instruct her via radio. So up the blonde went. She reached 1,000 feet and everything was going smoothly. She reached 2,000 feet. The blonde and the Instructor kept talking via radio. Everything was running smoothly. At 3,000 feet the helicopter suddenly came down quickly! It skimmed the top of some trees and crash landed in the woods. The Instructor jumped into his jeep and rushed out to see if the blonde was okay. As he reached the edge of the woods, the blonde was walking out. "What happened?" the Instructor asked. "All was going so well until you reached 3,000 feet." " What happened then?" "Well," began the blonde, "I got cold. So I turned off the ceiling fan." rrhaymaker

Brother Bob, This was sent to me by Gail Stevens. You probably heard other stuff along these lines about this ROTTON Despicable SOB. I can't even stand to consider him a human being let alone an American. Same for his wife. And same for Al Gore. Pappy For the RECORD The Clinton Record BILL Clinton's Service Record before becoming Commander in Chief The truth must be known. You should see Hillary's file. Bill Clinton registers for the draft on September 08, 1964, accepting all contractual conditions of registering for the draft. Given Selective Service Number 3 26 46 228. Bill Clinton classified 2-S on November 17, 1964. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on March 20, 1968. Bill Clinton ordered to report for induction on July 28, 1969. Bill Clinton dishonors order to report and is not inducted into the military. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-D after enlisting in the United States Army Reserves on August 07,1969 under authority of Col.E.Holmes. Clinton signs enlistment papers and takes oath of enlistment. Bill Clinton fails to report to his duty station at the University of Arkansas ROTC, September 1969. Bill Clinton reclassified 1-A on October 30, 1969, as enlistment with Army Reserves is revoked by Colonel E. Holmes and Clinton now AWOL and subject to arrest under Public Law 90-40 (2)(a) 'registrant who has failed to report...remain liable for induction'. Bill Clinton's birth date lottery number is 311, drawn December 1,1969, but anyone who has already been ordered to report for induction is INELIGIBLE! Bill Clinton runs for Congress (1974), while a fugitive from justice under Public Law 90-40. Bill Clinton runs for Arkansas Attorney General (1976), while a fugitive from justice. Bill Clinton receives pardon on January 21, 1977, from Carter. Bill Clinton FIRST PARDONED FEDERAL FELON ever to serve as President. All these facts come from Freedom of Information requests, public laws, and various books that! have been published, and have not been refuted by Clinton After the 1993 World Trade Center bombing, which killed six and injured 1,000; President Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1995 bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed five U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1996 Khobar Towers bombing in Saudi Arabia, which killed 19 and injured 200 U.S. military personnel; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 1998 bombing of U.S. embassies in Africa, which killed 224 and injured 5,000; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. After the 2000 bombing of the USS Cole, which killed 17 and injured 39 U.S. sailors; Clinton promised that those responsible would be hunted down and punished. Maybe if Clinton had kept those promises, an estimated 3,000 people in New York and Washington, D.C. that are now dead would be alive today. AN INTERESTING QUESTION: This question was raised on a Philly radio call This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

----- Original Message ----- From: Yvonne Armentrout To: Gail Stevens ; Erin Lee Armentrout ; Deb Soda ; Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 6:45 PM Subject: Fw: GREAT TRUTHS "FUNNY" GREAT TRUTHS GREAT TRUTHS THAT LITTLE CHILDREN HAVE LEARNED: 1) No matter how hard you try, you can't baptize cats. 2) When your Mom is mad at your Dad, don't let her brush your hair. 3) If your sister hits you, don't hit her back. They always catch the second person. 4) Never ask your 3-year old brother to hold a tomato. 5) You can't trust dogs to watch your food. 6) Don't sneeze when someone is cutting your hair. 7) Never hold a Dust-Buster and a cat at the same time. 8) You can't hide a piece of broccoli in a glass of milk. 9) Don't wear polka-dot underwear under white shorts. 10) The best place to be when you're sad is Grandpa's lap. GREAT TRUTHS THAT ADULTS HAVE LEARNED: 1) Raising teenagers is like nailing Jell-O to a tree. 2) Wrinkles don't hurt. 3) Families are like fudge...mostly sweet, with a few nuts. 4) Today's mighty oak is just yesterday's nut that held its ground. 5) Laughing is good exercise. It's like jogging on the inside. 6) Middle age is when you choose your cereal for the fiber, not the toy. GREAT TRUTHS ABOUT GROWING OLD: 1) Growing old is mandatory; growing up is optional. 2) Forget the health food. I need all the preservatives I can get. 3) When you fall down, you wonder what else you can do while you're down there. 4) You're getting old when you get the same sensation from a rocking chair that you once got from a roller coaster. 5) It's frustrating when you know all the answers but nobody bothers to ask you the questions. 6) Time may be a great healer, ! but it's a lousy beautician. 7) Wisdom comes with age, but sometimes age comes alone. THE FOUR STAGES OF LIFE: 1) You believe in Santa Claus. 2) You don't believe in Santa Claus. 3) You are Santa Claus. 4) You look like Santa Claus. SUCCESS: At age 4 success is . . . not peeing in your pants. At age 12 success is . . . having friends. At age 16 success is . . . having a drivers license. At age 20 success is . . . going all the way. At age 35 success is . . . having money. At age 50 success is . . . having money. At age 60 success is . . . going all the way. At age 70 success is . . . having a drivers license. At age 75 success is . . . having friends. At age 80 success is . . . not peeing in your pants. Pass this on to someone who could use a laugh. Always remember to forget the troubles that pass your way BUT never forget to remember the blessings that come each day.

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The Ten Commandments of Gardening: Thou shalt not covet thy neighbor's roses; Thou shalt honor thy mum and thy poppy; Thou shalt not plant it if thou cannot spell it; Thou shalt not feel silly talking to thy plants; Thou shalt nurture thy bleeding heart and thy weeping willow; Thou shalt dig in thy dirt, not dish thy dirt; Thou shalt bloom where thou be planted; Thy plants shall be expelled from thy Garden of Weeden; Thou shalt forget-me-not with friendship everlasting; and Thou shalt rest on the seventh daisy. P.S. And remember, thy oats are best sewn in thy garden! "Father, bless this person in whatever it is that You know he or she may be needing this day" BeverlyW Image Below

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Shipwrecked A voyaging ship was wrecked during a storm at sea and only two of the men on it were able to swim to a small, desert like island. The two survivors, not knowing what else to do, agreed that they had no other recourse but to pray to God. However, to find out whose prayer was more powerful, they agreed to divide the territory between them and stay on opposite sides of the island. The first thing they prayed for was food. The next morning, the first man saw a fruit-bearing tree on his side of the land, and he was able to eat its fruit. The other man's parcel of land remained barren. After a week, the first man was lonely and he decided to pray for a wife. The next day, another ship was wrecked, and the only survivor was a woman who swam to his side of the land. On the other side of the island, there was nothing. Soon the first man prayed for a house, clothes, more food. The next day, like magic, all of these were given to him. However, the second man still had nothing. Finally, the first man prayed for a ship, so that he and his wife could leave the island. In the morning, he found a ship docked at his side of the island. The first man boarded the ship with his wife and decided to leave the second man on the island. He considered the other man unworthy to receive God's blessings, since none of his prayers had been answered. As the ship was about to leave, the first man heard a voice from Heaven booming, "Why are you leaving your companion on the island?" "My blessings are mine alone, since I was the one who prayed for them," the first man answered. "His prayers were all unanswered and so he does not deserve anything." "You are mistaken!" the voice rebuked him. "He had only one prayer, which I answered. If not for that, you would not have received any of my blessings." "Tell me," the first man asked the voice, "What did he pray for that I should owe him anything?" "He prayed that all your prayers be answered." For all we know, our blessings are not the fruits of our prayers alone, but those of another praying for us. This is too good not to share. With obedience come blessings. My prayer for you today is that all your prayers are answered. Be blessed... "Father, bless this person in whatever it is that You know he or she may be needing this day" Image Below

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:02 PM Subject: I want this back... you'll see why I want this back... you'll see why *hi* you'll see something funny 30 sec. after you send to 15 people. PLEASE READ TO THE END---You'll understand *Near to the door* * he paused to stand* *as he took his class ring* * off her hand* *all who were watching* *did not speak* * as a silent tear* * ran down his cheek* *and through his mind* *the memories ran* * of the moments they walked* * and ran in the sand (hand and hand)* * but now her eyes were so terribly cold* *for he would never again* * have her to hold* *they watched in silence* * as he bent near* *and whispered the words..*.... *"I LOVE YOU" in her ear* *he touched her face and started to cry* * as he put on his ring and wanted to die* *and just then the wind began to blow* * as they lowered her casket* * into the snow....* *this is what happens* * to man alive.....* *when friends let friends....* * drink and drive.* Please send this out to everyone so they understand. It's not a chain letter or a joke. Thank you! YOU HAVE A HEART! ****THE RULES**** 1. You must FORWARD it within 20 minutes or you will spoil it for everyone. 2. You must follow these rules and something will pop up on your screen that is so funny 30 sec. after you send to 15 people. 3. Don't drink and drive.

Brother Bob, I enjoyed the music a ton. Amazing Grace has to be one of my favorite songs. In fact, I think everyone in my family loves that song. By everyone I mean all my line as far back as I remember and the ones living today. The only trouble with the site is ya get hammered with pop-up ads. All 3 times I tried they were there and when I went to my desktop also. This times it was an ad about some gay site. Sure wish GOD would do something with these worthless ******* &&&& . They get me mad enough to spit fire. Doing a bit better today. All the family were here since the 19th. We were all together this evening and had a good time before my so Jim left to go back to Florida. Sure miss him already. Tammy (Chickee Chick) and the boys will be here a while longer. The first time I was in the hospital this month, there was times I can not account for. I ask some of the ER crew weather I was doing any swearing then. They each told me I was the same as always. Laughing and joking, and teasing the gals. I was so afraid that in a comma, I would be cursing or something worse. But even while fighting the Grimm Reaper I could laugh and have fun. God Bless You and Yours Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 9:27 PM Subject: Rotten Rotten H C URL: http://craigpages3.100megsfree5.com/short_and_long/RottenCs.html I am still steaming over this one! Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Friday, July 25, 2003 8:56 PM Subject: Geese Geese As a young man, I always looked forward to a sure sign that the season was changing, that of the Canadian Geese flying overhead. I recall one evening, how it seemed like thousands of those magnificent birds, landed in a field in front of my house. When I awoke the next morning, they had continued on their way. We can learn a lesson from those geese; should one of them become sick, or get wounded, it never goes to the ground alone; several others always accompany it. Usually one of those geese is the afflicted one's mate; geese have more sense than many humans, and are often more loyal; when they mate, it is for life!(Smile) The healthy birds will care for the ailing one, once they are on the ground. It is quite common for them to protect one-another, to the point of placing themselves between an ailing bird, and the threat. As I was growing up, my father had several hundred geese; I know first-hand, how they will pinch and beat their adversary with their wings as they make a horrendous racket! Unlike many humans, they will stay with an indisposed bird, until it either recovers and can fly again, or dies. They take the "for better or worse, for richer or poorer, in sickness and in health" serious!(Hmmmmm) Only after the problem is solved, will they move on, and even then, they wait for another group of geese to fly overhead and join them, adding to the flying efficiency and safety of their group. My friend, that is a beautiful picture of how you, as a Christian, should relate to others; that's how the New Testament Christians lived. As a matter of fact, they "were of one heart and one soul; neither did anyone say that any of the things he possessed was his own, but they had all things in common."(Act4:32) No one said, "That's mine; you can't have it." They shared everything. Take a look at yourself now; are you so busy pursuing your life's goals that you have forgotten how to care, to share or just be there for those who need you? Have you forgotten that Jesus said, "in as much as you did it to one of the least of [your] brethren, you did it to Me."(Matt 25:40) How dare you claim you are doing anything for Jesus, if you are not doing it for "the least of [your] brethren!" "Father, bless this person in whatever it is that You know he or she may be needing this day" Image Below

----- Original Message ----- From: Beverly W. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 10:24 PM Subject: Gold Star Mothers This is not intended to offend anyone, just to inform you........ Gold Star Mothers You really should be sitting down when you read this one. Gold Star Mothers is an organization made up of women whose sons were killed in military combat during service in the United States armed forces. Recently a delegation of New York State Gold Star Mothers made a trip to Washington, DC, to discuss various concerns with their elected representatives. According to published reports, there was only one politician who refused to meet with these ladies. Can you guess which politician that might be? Was it New York Senator Charles Schumer? Nope, he met with them. Try again. Do you know anyone serving in the Senate who has never showed anything but contempt for our military? Do you happen to know the name of any politician in Washington who's husband once wrote of his loathing for the military? Now you're getting warm! You got it! None other than the Queen herself, Hillary Rotten Clinton. She refused repeated requests to meet with the Gold Star Mothers. Now, please don't tell me you're surprised. This woman wants to be President of the United States --- and there is a huge percentage of Voters who are eager to help her achieve that goal. May you sleep in peace always...and please...hug or thank a Veteran for that privilege. Think about this one !!! Don't forget, our girl, Hillary Rodham Clinton, as a New York Senator, now comes under this fancy congressional Retirement and Staffing Plan. It's common knowledge that, in order for her to establish NYS residency, they purchased a million+ dollar house in upscale Chappaqua, NY. Makes sense. Now, they are entitled to Secret Service protection for life. Still makes sense. Here is where it becomes interesting. The mortgage payments hover at about $10,000 per month. BUT, an extra residency had to be built within the acreage in order to house the Secret Service agents. The Clinton's now charge the Secret Service $10,000 monthly rent for the use of said Secret Service residence and that rent is just about equal to their mortgage payment, ........meaning that we, the tax payers, are paying the Clinton's mortgage, their transportation, their safety and security, their 12 man staff, and it's all perfectly legal. Sincerely, Cdr. Hamilton McWhorter USN (ret) PS: Please forward this to as many people as you can. We don't want this woman to even think of running for President. So, just how many people can you send this to? It will take no more than 2 minutes. Thanks "Father, bless this person in whatever it is that You know he or she may be needing this day"

Brother Bob, That about say's it all. But what to do that will stop this nonsense, is anyone's guess. The Bible tells us satan is to be turned loose. If he ain't loose already: I don't care to be here when he is loose. Just got out of the hospital again. Fluid build up on my lungs. Still feels as though there is some there, but the Dr.s all say my lungs sound ok for the shape they are in. Stll not sure what they plan to do with the kidney. Right now I am too weak to be able to under go an operation, where they need to put me on a respirator. There is a 10% chance of getting pnumonia when the respirator is removed: and with my COPD the chance is greater: and greater still being I had pnumonia twice this month already. So all but the surgeon are for postponing it. He will lose money. I ain't about to risk my life so he gets rich. I am so far back in my e-mail that It will be Christmas by the time ZI get caught up. GOD Bless America Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Thursday, July 24, 2003 5:09 PM Subject: Where's The Beef? Brother Pappy . . . Let me run this by you: http://rbchopper.bravepages.com/America/WheresTheFreedom.html Let me know what you think and how the page works. Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html

P A S S I N G N O T E S Web design tips from Kianta -- http://www.kianta.com/ July 24, 2003, Issue #22 _____________________________________________ THIS ISSUE: Know thy audience _____________________________________________ OPENING LINES Yesterday afternoon, I picked up the August issue of Reader's Digest and randomly thumbed through it. On one page, I happened to notice a compliation of a few of the lesser-known holidays in August. One example was "Sneak Some Zucchini Onto Your Neighbor's Porch Night." (It's celebrated on August 8, in case you wish to join in the fun.) While my neighbors probably won't find any zucchini on their porch on the 8th, little tidbits like this list of holidays are great. In a magazine, these isolated items are a way to pique readers' interest and get them engaged before they commit to reading a 6-page story. On a website, it can work the same way. Having small "trinkets" for visitors can help get them involved with the site right away, even if they are not ready to delve into heavy reading right at the beginning of their visit. Here are some ideas: 1. Add a poll to your site. 2. Give a short list of quick facts or trivia related to your company's products or services. Just remember to keep it light, not dense. Write from a "Did you know...?" standpoint in order to capture visitors' curiosity. 3. Be sure to point out any interesting news related to your company or industry. The key word here is interesting--make sure it's entertaining, and don't bore your visitors. Brainstorm for a few minutes and see if you can come up with more ideas for tidbits related to the focus of your site. But first, check out this issue's article and learn why it's so important to know your audience. Have a great day! Jamie mailto:jamiekiley@kianta.com _____________________________________________ KNOW THY AUDIENCE by Jamie Kiley A few weeks ago, I got an interesting letter in the mail. It was a cordial invitation to join the American Association of Retired Persons (AARP). I'm sure a lot of people get such invitations, but there were two things in particular about this letter that caught my eye. First of all, I noticed that it was addressed to MR. Jamie Kiley. That was problem #1. My name is Jamie Kiley, but I am female, not male. Problem #2: Considering that membership in the AARP is for people aged 55+, I think I would be slightly out of place if I attempted to join. After all, I'm only 19. Once I stopped laughing over the comical nature of this invitation, I realized that the AARP had unwittingly illustrated an important point: It is crucial to know your audience. The AARP's blunder handily reveals two reasons why this is so important: 1. If you don't know your audience, you will accidentally create barriers to winning customers. At best, you can reduce your credibility a little; at worst, you could inadvertently be downright offensive to your audience. In my case, the fact that the AARP had my gender wrong didn't bother me. I am quite secure in my femininity. However, I will admit that the mistake makes it a little tough for me to take the organization seriously. In addition, if I had ever thought that the AARP cares about its members as individuals, this faux pax paints a decidedly different picture. Although I do not expect them to be on a first-name basis with each member, I definitely feel that the organization related to me in a very impersonal manner. I'm not likely to feel a strong bond of loyalty with the AARP any time soon. 2. If you don't know your audience, you'll waste time and money pursuing people who have no real interest in your products or services. It doesn't matter if the AARP's letter to me was the best sales letter in the world. It doesn't matter if they poured $100,000 into developing the finest materials possible. I simply have no use for their services right now. Expenditures like this, when the audience has very little interest in your products are services, are costly and drain your company's resources. Other than these two pitfalls associated with NOT knowing your customers, there are key advantages that will come when you DO study your audience. First of all, the more intimately you know your audience, the more specifically you can speak to their needs. Of course, your website must revolve around meeting the needs of your customers in order to be successful. If you don't know who your customers are, you won't know their needs, so you won't know how to meet those needs. Studying your audience will give you important insights into what type of people are most likely to buy your products. Then you can plan your website accordingly. These questions can give you a start: Is your audience conservative or liberal? Male or female? Family-oriented? Single or married? What is their income level? Are they entrepreneurs, or do they hold 9-5 jobs? Are they buying for themselves or for someone else? Figure out what your customers' needs are so you can speak directly to those needs through your site's whole design and structure. Even if you can't answer all the questions listed above, try to figure out some ways to learn more about who your customers are and what they care about. The subtle influences in your site that result from becoming a student of your customers can often make all the difference in the world. It will affect your site's copy, organization, colors, and graphics. Sometimes it will even shape your vision for future products or services. Another major benefit to knowing your audience is that you can hone in on a narrow niche, which will allow you to be more efficient. It's important to understand that you simply cannot sell everything to everyone. Think more narrowly. If you focus on a specific target market, you can save time and resources, because you can address the needs of that specific group and stop worrying about the needs of everyone else. It's far more economical to become specialized in a specific area than it is to try to be the next Amazon.com. So...know thy audience! Ok, your turn to talk--shoot me your opinion: mailto:jamiekiley@kianta.com Reprint info: http://www.kianta.com/designtips/reprints.htm Archives: http://www.kianta.com/designtips _____________________________________________ OTHER IMPORTANT STUFF Yes, we do web design! And programming, and h*sting, and anything else you might need. :-) Plus, we have an awesome guarantee. Take a look at our website to find out more: http://www.kianta.com. Want to subscribe to this newsletter? http://www.kianta.com/newsletter.php Want to leave this list? You'll hurt our feelings, but it's ok: http://www.kianta.com/signdown.php?email=rbcraig5%40cox.net You guessed it, everything above is Copyright 2003 by Jamie Kiley. "But he that shall endure unto the end, the same shall be saved" (Matthew 24:13). If you died tonight, are you 100% sure you would go to heaven? No, really, are you sure?

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SPIRIT LIFTER God has kept me here for a reason. I survived because he has a plan for me. All my bad relationships, the bad credit, the repossessions, the death of my loved ones, the back stabbing from my friends, the negative thoughts, or the lack of support, I made it because I am blessed! I release and let go of all past hurts, misunderstandings and grudges because I am blessed! I recognize them as the illusions they are, for God is all there is. All else is a lie! Now give yourself a hug, wipe your tears and walk in victory!!!!!!!! I love you, but more appropriately God loves you BEST! Be blessed and know that you are at one with THE SPIRIT OF THE LIVING GOD! And may the Lord keep watch between you and me when we are away from each other. Genesis 31:49. Amen! Now since you are a true child of God, you know that with every blessing, a blessing is required! So bless another, by passing this on. . . . IF YOU DO IT RIGHT, GOD WILL BLESS IT RIGHT. Have A Wonderful Day! May your mornings bring joy and your evenings bring peace... May your troubles grow less as your blessings increase! Image Below

Top Topics for July 21st, 2003 More Resources and Info Cascading Style Sheets Tips Archive More Resources and Info Building an Online Community? No need to piece it together. Our Online Community Package has everything you need to build and manage your online community. Web site and email for members. Chat room, message board, discussion lists, newsletters, web calendar, more. Unlimited users. No ads. Customizable. Superior Support. [Features, Demos, Signup] Quick Tip How to Make a Gradient Background Gradients are colors that blend into each other to form an ongoing color shift. This effect is highly appealing, and used generally in graphic design, rather than with Web pages. However, a simple style appended to your page's Body Tag can create a very nice gradient fill to form a background to the page. This style can be applied to your entire page by using it within the Body Tag, or you can choose to add fills to tables by employing the same code with your Table Tags. Consider the following code for use in your body tag to add a gradient to the whole page: <body style="filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Gradient(endColorstr='#ccffcc', startColorstr='#FFFFFF', gradientType='0');"></body> Now transport this to an HTML table (note how we reversed the color order for the table): <table style="filter:progid:DXImageTransform.Microsoft.Gradient(endColorstr='#ffffff', startColorstr='#ccffcc', gradientType='0');"><tr><td>adfad<br><br></td></tr></table> adfad Remember, the gradient runs from one color to the other, so you want to have highly contrasting colors for your two input values to take advantage of the full effect. Also note the gradientType, which is specified in our example as "0". This produces a vertical blend. If we set this value to "1" we get a horizontal gradation. Full automation - automated customer signup - automated domain registration - credit card billing Turn-Key solution host of your reseller site at no charge! 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Here’s what the code looks like: <META HTTP-EQUIV="Refresh" CONTENT="5;URL=http://www./your_host.com/ your_site/your_page.html"> The number is the time in seconds for the Refresh to begin, while the URL is the page you wish to Refresh to. Don’t stop there, though. You should also include a direct hyperlink to the page that visitors can click if they don’t want to wait for the refresh action to take place. Random Image/Link Want to randomly display images and hyperlinks from a list? No problem, you can do it with a simple script like the one shown here. No need to learn server-side scripting, or slow down your pages with full-blown Java applications. The script shown below randomly loads an image from the list you input each time a page is loaded into a browser. This example works with two images. You can add as many as you like. You can even add the same image twice to double its weighting. 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Cascading Style Sheets We have talked about the power and flexibility of Cascading Style Sheets in the past and this is yet another example of how to create a stylish and functional navigation menu bar without using any images. The speed of loading and using this method of navigation far out-weighs the use of javascripts and images. Try the following script for yourself and modify it to suit your own needs.

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CIRCLE FLIES An old farmer got pulled over by a Maine State trooper for speeding. The trooper started to lecture the farmer about his speed and in general, began to throw his weight around to try to make the farmer uncomfortable. Finally, the trooper got around to writing out the ticket. As he was doing it, he kept swatting at some flies that were buzzing around his head. The farmer said, "Havin' some problems with circle flies there, are Ya?" The trooper stopped writing the ticket and said--"Well, yeah, if that's what they are--I never heard of circle flies." So the old farmer says, "Well, circle flies are common on farms. See, they're called circle flies 'cause they're almost always found circlin' around the back end of a horse. The trooper says, "Oh," and goes back to writing the ticket. Then after a minute he stops and says, "Hey...wait a minute, are you trying to call me a horse's ass?" The farmer says, "Oh no, officer. I have too much respect for law enforcement and police officers to even think about calling you a horse's ass." The trooper says, "Well, that's a good thing," and goes back to writing the ticket. After a long pause, the farmer says, "Hard to fool them flies, though." Pappy 07/22/03

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Editor's Station Picks Listen to all Live365 stations commercial-free with an all-access VIP pass: Preferred Membership cj's radio olio (Freeform) (32kbps) A musical cornucopia of songs from the 20s to today; from the Kinks and early BeeGees to Bing Crosby, Wire, Big Star, Duke Ellington, and vintage soda commercials! dataheaven (Indie Rock) (56kbps) With approximately 5,000 tracks, you are statistically more likely to get struck by lightening than you are to hear the same track within one week. Enjoy a heavenly rich selection of indie rock from Radiohead, Sigur Ros and Interpol; The Smiths, Strokes and Cars; Ride, Bjork and Blur, and loads more. sound system -:::: (Dub/Reggae) (56kbps) Enjoy the smooth-n-dubby sounds of High Tone, Twilight Circus, Dubcreator, and Jah Warrior, as well as stalwarts like King Tubby, Black Uhuru and August Pablo. Return of the Afronaut (Intergalactic Funk) (32kbps) Original tracks and remixes from the High Priests and Priestesses of Funk - James Brown, Fela, The Roots, Jazzanova, King Britt, Miles, Prince, EWF, MAW, Nina Simone, Common, Erykah Badu and more... Bob's Classic Country (Country) (24kbps) This is REAL country, featuring the Classics, Western and Bluegrass, too. Don't miss the special Classic Show on Sundays, Greatest Country Songs on Mondays and New Artists shows on Tuesdays. Check station schedule for details! Featured Music Library Tracks Artist Track Title Genre Stations Playing This Track Clem Snide "All Green" (Alternative) Soft Spot, the fourth album from the Brooklyn art-country band with the William F. Burroughs-derived name and the NBC soundtrack credit. XYZ "All I'm Asking" (Classic Rock) Remember XYZ? With hits "Inside Out" and "What Keeps Me Loving You," XYZ shot to the top of the charts. They are back and better than EVER! John Mitchell "Trio for violin, cello and piano (2nd mvt)" (Classical) From the Sheremetyev Ensemble's vibrant Moscow recording of John Mitchell chamber music. Michelle Branson "Who Needs You" (Country) Written by Skip Ewing, Mickry Cates Lil Jon "Get Low (featuring Ying Yang Twins)" (Hip-Hop) The trio, made up of producer/performer Lil Jon, Big Sam and Lil Bo, have put together an album full of their signature club anthems. Featuring 8 Ball & MJG, Big Tymers, Fat Joe, Jadakiss, Mystikal, Petey Pablo, Trick Daddy and more. Kaito "Should I?" (Indie Rock) ...a female fronted version of Clinic. This quartet - two boys, two girls - makes lopsided, gleeful punk rock so jittery it's almost danceable. Cassandra Reed "Only Human" (Jazz) Debut single from soulful jazz songstress Cassandra Reed. Finger Eleven "Good Times" (Metal) Finger Eleven is back after two and a half years - a radical tranistion in musical styles, but still kicks plenty of butt! Evanescence "Going Under" (Rock) From the smash hit Fallen. NEW SINGLE - Now EXPLODING! Default "The Fallout" (Rock) From Default's debut album, The Fallout, a hearty, fist-in-the-air rock-n-roll anthem record destined to ride the airwaves of radio stations everywhere. Closure "Look Out Below" (Rock) 2003's self-titled debut on TVT Records featuring the infectious first single "Look Out Below" from the motion picture Darkness Falls. Closure has a pretty unique sound with a great hook. TVT Records Big Bad Voodoo Daddy "You Know You Wrong" (Swing) Ska, Swing, Blues, Pop, it's all good, all fun. Visit the Music Library to sideload these and many more tracks! Live365 Preference Center Newsletter Type HTML Plain Text To unsubscribe, click here. Live365.com is an officially licensed ASCAP and BMI site. © 1999-2003 Live365, Inc. All rights reserved. Good Music for Good People Not Lame Recordings Not Lame is your retail source for melodic pop/rock music. 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Brother Bob, I got out of the hospital yesterday: but feel awful yet. On the 11 th I got awake and was gasping for breath. Some how by stomping on the floor and beating the wall with my fists, I was able to get my daughter Connie. She came running. Boy am I glad she did not panic. I knew what had to be done but was not able to do it. Connie was able to do what I explained to her to get my machines up and working the way they should: then call help. Without her help on that day I would be a ghost today. I remember everything up till the time I got into the ER and was being connected to their equipment. I usually help hook my self up: but not this time. The next thing I remember is being taken to a hospital room. I still had the nurses laughing. In the ER I fought the Grimm Reaper off 4 or 5 times. My lung dr. said I was almost a gonner. The next time I get pnumonia I will probable be seeing heaven. My son Jimmy came in from Fl And my daughter Tammy is on her way. She should arrive in an hour or so. Gotta stop for a rest. I am not use to this; pace. I am use to going on and ao with no rest. This is going to do me in. God Bless Pappy

Subject: Don't buy Pepsi in the new can Don't buy Pepsi in the new can: or ANY of their poison. Pepsi has a new "patriotic" can coming out with pictures of the Empire State Bldg. and the Pledge of Allegiance on them. But, Pepsi left out two little words on the pledge, "Under God." Pepsi said they did not want to offend anyone. If this is true then we do not want to offend anyone at the Pepsi corporate office. If we do not buy any Pepsi product then they will not receive any of our monies. Our money after all does have the words "Under God" on it. Please pass this word to everyone you know--let your voices be heard. We want the words "Under God" to be read by every person who buys a can. HOW FAST CAN YOU FORWARD THIS ONE? This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm

Please read this update! http://craigpages3.100megsfree5.com/craigpages3/071803SupportOurPres.html + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + SUPPORT THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF UPDATE YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUESTED 7/18/03 Dear Robert, Grassfire.net is sending out a rally cry for everyone who has signed our petition supporting the Commander-in-Chief to take immediate action in response to MoveOn.org's full frontal assault on our President ... and they are winning. Using the liberal media to help spread their message, this ultra-liberal group of activists kicked off a national campaign--calling on Congress to create an independent commission to investigate the Bush Administration. Now, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) has authored such a bill, and MoveOn.org is rallying citizens to contact their members of Congress urging them to support and vote for this independent commission. Robert, their actions have nothing to do with WMDs, the economy, or anything else. Their goal is quite simply this: to weaken the Presidency for the 2004 election. That's why we sending up a rally cry of our own to short-circuit the momentum of this liberal organization. But we need everyone who supports our President to take action in two very specific, and very critical ways: * * *ACTION ITEM #1--25,000 CITIZENS NEEDED! Already, MoveOn.org claims to have raised 350,000 names in a matter of weeks stand against the President. To counter this aggressive push of support, Grassfire is asking for your help in raising an additional 25,000 citizen supporters in just the next few days! PLEASE COMMIT TO SENDING THIS MESSAGE TO AT LEAST 5-10 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, URGING THEM TO STAND WITH THE PRESIDENT, AND AGAINST THIS LATEST ATTACK, BY CLICKING HERE: http://www.grassfire.net/26/petition.asp?PID=3998560 If everyone rallies just one more person to sign our petition supporting the President, we will shatter our goal, and effectively counter MoveOn.org's destructive mission. * * *ACTION ITEM #2--CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN! Robert, Grassfire is urging you to call your Virginia Representative, right away. Tell your Representative to stand firm in support of the Commander-In-Chief, and against the Waxmen bill currently circulating in Washington! If you don't know your Representative's phone number, please contact the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121. This is a critical call, and we urge you to take immediate action! Thank you for taking fast action! Grassfire.net Real Impact. Real Feedback. Real Results. (TM) P.S. In their recent television campaign, MoveOn.org called the President a MISLEADER. Help us refute that message by picking up your phone today. And after you call your Virginia Representative, pass this message on to your friends--urging them to stand with you and with our President. P.P.S Grassfire.net has created a special broadcast message for you. Please click here for more: Windows: Click here Real Player: Click here + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + IF YOU HAVEN'T YET SIGNED OUR PETITION, PLEASE CLICK HERE: http://www.grassfire.net/26/petition.asp?PID=3998560 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + IF YOU HAVE A SUPPORT OUR TROOPS/AMERICA RALLY YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PROMOTE, PLEASE EMAIL US THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO: comments@grassfire.net + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + VIEW YOUR PERSONAL IMPACT ON THIS ISSUE AT YOUR CUSTOMIZED REPORTING SITE: http://www.grassfire.net/26/impact.asp?CID=26&RID=3998560 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ------------------------------------------- Thank you, Bob Craig ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html

Calvary Press Publishing And Discount Book Service 2003 www.calvarypress.com It's finally here.The Heart of Anger Workbook!! By Lou Priolo and Amy Baker This is the companion study guide to one of the most important Christian books ever published: The Heart of Anger. The book itself started a revolution in the realm of Christian counseling. Rather than dealing with simply behavior patterns, it went right to the "heart" of the matter: the inner workings of our motives and behavior in the light of God's word. It examined not just how to control anger in children, but why children are angry and, moreover, how adults at times contribute to that anger. In so doing, it also addressed the anger found in adult behavior that is passed on to children. This long-awaited workbook acts as a resource to get you to think through these issues in conjunction with the book. If you've never read the book, order a copy now! If you have the book, the workbook is a must, and makes for an excellent small group Bible study! ORDER NOW! Softcover, $14.99 Buy the Heart of Anger and the workbook together and receive both for only $24.99! The End Times Made Simple How Could Everybody Be So Wrong About Biblical Prophecy? By Samuel E. Waldron Rapture? Pre-Trib? Post-Trib? Millennium? Confused? You should be! In today's Evangelical Christian world, eschatology-or the study of the "Last Things"-has been turned into a sort of pseudo-science with a plethora of authors claiming to know exactly the scenario of events that are to take place just prior to the Lord Jesus Christ's return. On one hand, believers are told they must follow the unbiblical, complex and bizarre scheme of Dispensationalism, with its "Secret Rapture," political Anti-Christ and worldly Millennium. On the other, those in the "full preterist" camp tell them that all biblical prophecy has been fulfilled in the past and that they should not look for the sky to break open and Our Lord to descend in judgment and triumph. But the author of this work claims that both are wrong and that eschatology, despite what many will tell you, is really a rather simple and straight forward affair. His thesis is that there is This Age, and The Age to Come.we will be, or are, in either one or the other. Any "End Times" system that forms a hybrid of these two, or contradicts this simple formula, is unbiblical, and should be rejected! Piece by piece, Waldron strips away years of false teaching and faulty exegesis thrust upon the church to reveal what the Bible, in its own simple but profound way, says about what will happen at the end of this present age. Softcover, $16.99 My Friend Grace By Joseph M. 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From Forgiven to Forgiving $14.95 Learning to Forgive One Another God's Way by Jay E. Adams Is it biblical to "forgive and forget"? In this most important book, Adams helps you understand true biblical forgiveness while pointing out the many misconceptions today's Christians have about the subject, and applies that understanding to everyday situations, whether at home or in the church. From Religion To Christ By Peter Jeffery $ 6.95 Peter Jeffery is concerned about millions of people in the same position today that Nicodemus found himself in: religious, but not redeemed by God! A careful and prayerful reading of this book can be used of God to open the eyes of many to see that their religion is empty and vain, but salvation can and will be found in Jesus Christ alone. An excellent evangelism tool! Heaven: A World of Love By Jonathan Edwards $ 5.95 What will heaven be like? Jonathan Edwards, preacher of America's most famous sermon - Sinners in the Hands of an Angry God--reached the very height of his preaching in describing with powerful, biblical detail the incomparable majesty of heaven embodied in this very work. Morning Exercises Soul-strengthening devotional meditations for every day of the year By William Jay Hardcover orig. $29.95 now only $14.95 Start your day with the greatest devotional of all time! William Jay's fresh, simple, yet profound insight into God's word will provide a muscular morning workout for your soul. William Jay was one of the most beloved pastors of the 19th century, and pastored the same church for over 60 years! Here's a devotional you will really be fed by! Obedient and Patient Faith (An) An Exposition of 1st Peter By Robert Leighton $8.50 This study of 1st Peter-considered to be the best ever--explores the nature of patient faith in the face of trials. This commentary may be read as a study tool or as a devotional. Teaching Truth, Training Hearts The study of catechisms in Baptist life By Tom J. Nettles $ 7.50 John MacArthur writes, "This volume of catechisms, pleasing and surprisingly from a tradition not often noted for such tools, should both encourage and aid the church in fulfilling the mandate of 'holding fast the form of sound words'." The Complete Husband A Practical Guide to Biblical Husbanding $15.95 By Lou Priolo What does it mean to be a biblical husband? Lou Priolo turns his years of biblical counseling wisdom to the subject of being the husband that the Lord Jesus Christ wants all Christian men to be. He shows men how the Bible instructs them to "know their wives." This book is simple without being shallow; comprehensive without being tedious-and will have a profound effect on your marital relationship!. The Heart of Anger Practical Help for the Prevention and Cure of Anger in Children By Lou Priolo $15.95 Anger! Is it ever a problem in your home? Do your children ever speak to you in angry, disrespectful tones? Do they ever fight between themselves? Have you ever lost your patience and composure when dealing with an infuriating situation? Well, if you honestly answered "yes" to any of these questions, you need this book! Priolo deals with anger's root causes, offering corrective advice from a place not many counselors go to these days: the Bible! This is one of the most popular books on this most important subject. The Potter's Freedom A Defense of the Reformation and a Rebuttal of Norman Geisler's "Chosen But Free" by James R. White $16.95 In a style that both scholars and layman can appreciate, James White masterfully counters the evidence against so-called "extreme Calvinism", defines what the Reformed Faith actually is, and concludes that the gospel preached by the Reformers is the very one taught in the pages of Scripture. Thoughts For Young Men By J.C. 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+ + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + SUPPORT THE COMMANDER-IN-CHIEF UPDATE YOUR IMMEDIATE ACTION REQUESTED 7/18/03 Dear Robert, Grassfire.net is sending out a rally cry for everyone who has signed our petition supporting the Commander-in-Chief to take immediate action in response to MoveOn.org's full frontal assault on our President ... and they are winning. Using the liberal media to help spread their message, this ultra-liberal group of activists kicked off a national campaign--calling on Congress to create an independent commission to investigate the Bush Administration. Now, Rep. Henry Waxman (D-CA) has authored such a bill, and MoveOn.org is rallying citizens to contact their members of Congress urging them to support and vote for this independent commission. Robert, their actions have nothing to do with WMDs, the economy, or anything else. Their goal is quite simply this: to weaken the Presidency for the 2004 election. That's why we sending up a rally cry of our own to short-circuit the momentum of this liberal organization. But we need everyone who supports our President to take action in two very specific, and very critical ways: * * *ACTION ITEM #1--25,000 CITIZENS NEEDED! Already, MoveOn.org claims to have raised 350,000 names in a matter of weeks stand against the President. To counter this aggressive push of support, Grassfire is asking for your help in raising an additional 25,000 citizen supporters in just the next few days! PLEASE COMMIT TO SENDING THIS MESSAGE TO AT LEAST 5-10 PEOPLE IN THE NEXT FEW DAYS, URGING THEM TO STAND WITH THE PRESIDENT, AND AGAINST THIS LATEST ATTACK, BY CLICKING HERE: http://www.grassfire.net/26/petition.asp?PID=3998560 If everyone rallies just one more person to sign our petition supporting the President, we will shatter our goal, and effectively counter MoveOn.org's destructive mission. * * *ACTION ITEM #2--CALL YOUR CONGRESSMEN! Robert, Grassfire is urging you to call your Virginia Representative, right away. Tell your Representative to stand firm in support of the Commander-In-Chief, and against the Waxmen bill currently circulating in Washington! If you don't know your Representative's phone number, please contact the Capitol Switchboard at 202-224-3121. This is a critical call, and we urge you to take immediate action! Thank you for taking fast action! Grassfire.net Real Impact. Real Feedback. Real Results. (TM) P.S. In their recent television campaign, MoveOn.org called the President a MISLEADER. Help us refute that message by picking up your phone today. And after you call your Virginia Representative, pass this message on to your friends--urging them to stand with you and with our President. P.P.S Grassfire.net has created a special broadcast message for you. Please click here for more: Windows: <a href=" http://www.gfir.ws/r.asp?u=238 ">Click here</a> Real Player: <a href=" http://www.gfir.ws/r.asp?u=239 ">Click here</a> + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + IF YOU HAVEN'T YET SIGNED OUR PETITION, PLEASE CLICK HERE: http://www.grassfire.net/26/petition.asp?PID=3998560 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + IF YOU HAVE A SUPPORT OUR TROOPS/AMERICA RALLY YOU WOULD LIKE US TO PROMOTE, PLEASE EMAIL US THE NECESSARY INFORMATION TO: comments@grassfire.net + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + VIEW YOUR PERSONAL IMPACT ON THIS ISSUE AT YOUR CUSTOMIZED REPORTING SITE: http://www.grassfire.net/26/impact.asp?CID=26&RID=3998560 + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + + ------------------------------------------- For Rev.& Mrs. Robert Craig to unsubscribe, please go to: http://www.grassfire.net/uns.asp?CID=26&RID=3998560 ------------------------------------------- You are signed up as: rcraig5@cox.net To change your email address: <a href=" http://www.grassfire.net/email.asp?rid=3998560 ">Change email</a>

Bob is this what you need? Did you know you can condense all the myfamily.com sites you visit with one user name and password? Makes life a lot easier! We leave in the am for Missouri to see what we can find. I am so tired I am looking forward to the ride for three days so I can rest. Take care, and I will let you know how things are going with us as I can. God Bless Susan Dear Robert , Susan Sprague has invited you to Susie & Ronnie's family, a new website at MyFamily.com, and would like you to participate! Please join Susan Sprague at MyFamily.com for a fun and interactive experience. To login to this site, Susie & Ronnie's family please go to http://www.myfamily.com and enter your temporary Username and Password: Username: RBlairCraig Password: 9822wt2 Or you may also use the following direct login link: http://www.myfamily.com/isapi.dll?c=site&htx=main&siteid=QBZKAM&_ref=member%5CInvitation&att=bCgABjjbhUsBM4B%5FWk2DBI%2ACvPA8IIBA3GsJAM We hope that you enjoy participating on this site, and we appreciate this opportunity to serve you and your family. Thank you! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Thursday, July 17, 2003 12:58 PM Subject: Your site won't let me in. Tried to view your site a moment ago. Seems my machine has lost its cookie for your site. Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html

Brother Bob, That was one GREAT ruleing !! Maybe there is still hope for then knotheads. But the people in the school district should get with it. On the next time they elect a school offical only vote for a christian. And going to a Christian type dose not make them a Christian. Pappy

When Bill and Hillary first got married Bill said, "I am putting a box under the bed. You must promise never to look in it." In all their 30 years of marriage, Hillary never looked. However, on the afternoon of their 30th anniversary, curiosity got the best of her and she lifted the lid and peeked inside. In the box were 3 empty beer cans and $81,874.25 in cash. She closed the box and put it back under the bed. Now that she knew what was in the box, she was doubly curious as to why there even was such a box with such contents. That evening, they were out for a special anniversary dinner. After dinner, Hillary could no longer contain her curiosity and she confessed, saying, "I am so sorry. For all these years, I kept my promise and never looked into the box under our bed. However, today the temptation was too much and I gave in. But now I need to know, why do you keep the 3 beer cans in the box?" Bill thought for a while and said, "I guess after all these years you deserve to know the truth. Whenever I was unfaithful to you, I put an empty beer can in the box under the bed to remind myself not to do it again." Hillary was shocked, but said, "Hmmm, Jennifer, Paula and Monica. I am very disappointed and saddened by your behavior. However, since you are addicted to sex, I guess it does happen and I guess 3 times is not that bad considering your problem." Bill thanked her for being so understanding. They hugged and made their peace. A little while later Hillary asked Bill, "So why do you have all that money in the box?" Bill answered, "Well, whenever the box filled up with empty cans, I took them to the recycling center and redeemed them for cash!" This email was cleaned by emailStripper, available for free from http://www.papercut.biz/emailStripper.htm Pappy

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ THIS IS A REALLY COOL STORY AND NOTICE, AT THE END, THE DATE THE CANDLE WAS STARTED. Diane, a young university student, was home for the summer. She had gone to visit some friends one evening and time passed quickly as each shared their various experiences of the past year. She ended up staying longer than planned, and had to walk home alone. She wasn't afraid because it was a small town and she lived only a few blocks away. As she walked along under the tall elm trees, Diane asked "God" to keep her safe from harm and danger. When she reached the alley, which was a short cut to her house, she decided to take it. However, halfway down the alley she noticed a man standing at the end as though he were waiting for her. She became uneasy and began to pray, asking for "God's" protection. Instantly a comforting feeling of quietness and security wrapped around her, she felt as though someone was walking with her. When she reached the end of the alley, she walked right past the man and arrived home safely. The following day, she read in the newspaper that a young girl had been raped in the same alley just twenty minutes after she had been there. Feeling overwhelmed by this tragedy and the fact that it could have been her, she began to weep. Thanking the Lord for her safety and to help this young woman, she decided to go to the police station. She felt she could recognize the man, so she told them her story. The police asked her if she would be willing to look at a lineup to see if she could identify him. She agreed and immediately pointed out the man she had seen in the alley the night before. When the man was told he had been identified, he immediately broke down and confessed. The officer thanked Diane for her bravery and asked if there was anything they could do for her. She asked if they would ask the man one question. Diane was curious as to why he had not attacked her. When the policeman asked him, he answered, "Because she wasn't alone. She had two tall men walking on either side of her." Moral of the story... Don't underestimate the power of Prayer! Gives ya goose bumps doesn't it! This is to all of you who mean something to me, I pray for your happiness. The Candle Of Love, Hope & Friendship () |---| |---| |---| |---| |---| -------- This candle was lit on the 15th of September, 1998. Someone who loves you has helped keep it alive by sending it to you. Don't let The Candle Of Love, Hope and Friendship die! Pass It On To All Of Your Friends and Everyone You Love! May God richly bless you as send this story on. Please keep this candle alive.

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Pat Robertson" <DM-CBN-PROD-SupremeCourt@cbn.org> To: <pappy111567@charter.net> Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 8:44 PM Subject: Urgent call for prayer > "You seem to think that the Supreme Court is the ultimate arbiter of constitutional > interpretation, a very dangerous doctrine indeed and one that would place us under > the tyranny of an oligarchy." How wise Jefferson was. Yet even Jefferson could > not have foreseen what the Supreme Court has done to the Constitution of the United > States since 1962. Just think what five unelected judges have done to our nation's > moral framework. In 1962, they ruled prayer out of the public schools. In 1963, > they ruled the Bible out of public schools. In 1973, they applied a "right of > privacy" not found in the Constitution as the basis for opening the door to the > slaughter of more than 43,000,000 innocent unborn children. Subsequent federal > courts have ruled the Ten Commandments were illegal in schools, that statues of > Jesus were illegal in public parks, that prayers on a map in North Carolina were > illegal, and that it was illegal for little elementary school children to give > thanks over their milk and cookies at snack time. Now, the Supreme Court has declared > a constitutional right to consensual sodomy and, by the language in its decision, > has opened the door to homosexual marriages, bigamy, legalized prostitution, and > even incest. The framers of our Constitution never intended anything like this > to take place in our land. Yet we seem to be helpless to do anything about it. > Why? Because we are under the tyranny of a nonelected oligarchy. Just think, five > unelected men and women who serve for life can change the moral fabric of our > nation and take away the protections which our elected legislators have wisely > put in place. But there is a higher tribunal than the United States Supreme Court. > There is the Judge of all the earth. We must earnestly come before Him now and > cry out for redress of our grievances. He loves America as much as we do, and > He does not wish to destroy it. But no culture has ever endured which has turned > openly to homosexuality. And no society has ever been spared the wrath of God > which has been guilty of slaughtering tens of millions of the innocent. In short, > by its distorted reading of the religion clause of the First Amendment to the > United States Constitution and its "discovery" of emanations from the 14th Amendment > called "penumbras," the Supreme Court is bringing upon this nation the wrath of > God when the precious liberties that we love so much may be taken away from all > of us. Would you join with me and many others in crying out to our Lord to change > the Court? If we fast and pray and earnestly seek God's face, then He will hear > our prayer and give us relief. One justice is 83 years old, another has cancer, > and another has a heart condition. Would it not be possible for God to put it > in the minds of these three judges that the time has come to retire? With their > retirement and the appointment of conservative judges, a massive change in federal > jurisprudence can take place. We can have a court that no longer legislates from > the bench the wishes of The New York Times and The Washington Post, but which > will earnestly seek to interpret the Constitution as it is written and to give > meaning to the centuries of moral standards which have undergirded this wonderful > country called the United States of America. Please join us in prayer to support > a massive prayer offensive we are calling Operation Supreme Court Freedom. "With > man this is impossible, but with God all things are possible" (Matthew 19:26). > God bless you. Yours in Christ, Pat Robertson PLEDGE TO PRAY AND REQUEST YOUR > BOOKLET HERE: http://www.cbn.com/redir/scf.asp Unsubscribe: http://www.cbn.com/community/af/mailcategory.asp?l=pappy111567%40charter.net&a=4 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: American Family Association To: pappy111567@charter.net Sent: Monday, July 07, 2003 1:01 AM Subject: Urge your representative to co-sponsor marriage amendment - July 7, 2003 (You are receiving this mailing because you signed the marriage petition at NoGayMarriage.com.) Urge Your Representative to Co-Sponsor Federal Marriage Amendment Dear friend, Thank you for being one of the over 360,000 who have to date signed the petition supporting a Federal Marriage Amendment. Now, urge your representative to co-sponsor the Amendment in Congress. BACKGROUND INFORMATION The Supreme Court's decision in Lawrence v. Texas, finding a constitutional right to homosexual sodomy, presents a clear threat to traditional marriage and the family. However, there is a solution. Currently pending before the United States House of Representatives is the Federal Marriage Amendment (H.J.Res. 56). This resolution would amend the Constitution to ban same-sex marriage. Last year, a poll of 1,500 homosexual rights activists found that the number one priority of their movement was same-sex marriage. The Texas sodomy case only fuels the flame to see same-sex marriage instituted in every state in the nation. . .including yours. TAKE ACTION Click here to urge your representative to co-sponsor the Federal Marriage Amendment. It will only take a minute or two and is easy to do. Let them know just how important this issue is to you and your family. (If your representative is already a co-sponsor, you may thank them for taking that action.) If you are able, please consider making a generous donation to offset the expenses associated with this campaign. (PayPal users: We can now take donations via PayPal. Click here to do so.) Sincerely, Donald E. Wildmon, Chairman American Family Association PS: Please forward this alert to everyone you know and urge them to stand up for traditional marriage. -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- You are subscribed to afapetition as pappy111567@charter.net.

THE PERKS OF BEING OVER 50 1. Kidnappers are not very interested in you. 2. In a hostage situation you are likely to be released first. 3. No one expects you to run - anywhere. 4. People call at 9 PM and ask, "Did I wake you?" 5. People no longer view you as a hypochondriac. 6. There is nothing left to learn the hard way. 7. Things you buy now won't wear out. 8. You can eat dinner at 4 P.M. 9. You enjoy hearing about other peoples operations. 10. You get into heated arguments about pension plans. 11. You have a party and the neighbors don't even realize it. 12. You no longer think of speed limit's as a challenge. 13. You quit trying to hold your stomach in, no matter who walks into the room. 14. You sing along with elevator music. 15. Your eyes won't get much worse. 16. Your investment in health insurance is finally beginning to pay off. 17. Your joints are more accurate than meteorologists at the national weather service. 18. Your secrets are safe with your friends because they can't remember them either. 19. Your supply of brain cells is finally down to manageable size. 20. You can't remember who sent you this list. GAMES FOR WHEN WE ARE OLDER 1. Sag, You're it. 2. Pin the Toupee on the bald guy. 3. 20 questions shouted into your good ear. 4. Kick the bucket. 5. Red Rover, Red Rover, the nurse says Bend Over. 6. Doc Goose. 7. Simon says something incoherent. 8. Hide and go pee. 9. Spin the Bottle of Mylanta. 10. Musical recliners. SIGNS OF MENOPAUSE 1. You sell your home heating system at a yard sale. 2. Your husband jokes that instead of buying a wood stove, he is using you to heat the family room this winter. Rather than just saying you are not amused, you shoot him. 3. You have to write post-it notes with your kids' names on them. 4. The Phenobarbital dose that wiped out the Heaven's Gate Cult gives you four hours of decent rest. 5. You change your underwear after every sneeze. 6. You're on so much estrogen that you take your Brownie troop on a field trip to Chippendales SIGNS OF WEAR OLD" IS WHEN..... Your sweetie says, "Let's go upstairs and make love" and you answer, "Pick one, I can't do both!" "OLD" IS WHEN.... Your friends compliment you on your new alligator shoes and you're barefoot. "OLD" IS WHEN.... A sexy babe catches your fancy and your pacemaker opens the garage door. "OLD" IS WHEN.... Going bra-less pulls all the wrinkles out of your face. "OLD" IS WHEN.... You don't care where your spouse goes, just as long as you don't have to go along. "OLD" IS WHEN.... You are cautioned to slow down by the doctor instead of by the police. "OLD" IS WHEN.... "Getting a little action" means I don't need to take any fiber today "OLD" IS WHEN.... "Getting lucky" means you find your car in the parking lot. "OLD" IS WHEN.... An "all-nighter" means not getting up to pee.

Please share this email with your friends and Family!! I found this site and felt compelled to share it with my friends. Their goal is to get 4,000,000 Americans to digitally sign the Pledge of Allegiance online, one thousand for every man, woman and child killed by terrorists on September 11, 2001. Pending approval, these online signatures will then be displayed at Ground Zero in New York on the one-year anniversary of 9-11 this year. This is one way we can show support for our country and its freedoms. By standing united, we are not only honoring the victims but also sending a strong message to the likes of Osama Bin Laden, Saddam Hussein and Yassar Arafat. I've pledged my allegiance and I encourage you to do the same. I personally feel that this is one small action we can take to help strengthen our collective resolve. If you feel the same, please share this with everyone you know. This link will take you to the site. http://www.patriotdrive.org Or http://www.SignThePledgeOfAllegiance.org

Dear fellow Patriot, Your name has been successfully added to the "Patriots Mural"- a list of patriotic Americans who pledged their allegiance to flag and country. Pending approval, the "Patriots Mural" will be displayed at ground zero, NY on the one-year anniversary of 9-11. To facilitate this site and the "Patriots Mural" display. We are offering participants a commemorative copy of the Pledge of Allegiance. For a suggested $10 contribution, we will send you an 8 X 10 commemorative print of the Pledge of Allegiance like the one that appears on the site. All contributions go directly towards the Mural display, newsletter, maintenance of the website and for our cost of the Pledge of Allegiance photomontage. You can see a copy at: http://www.patriotdrive.org/plaque.cfm You may view your "personal pledge page" by clicking on the following link http://www.patriotdrive.org/adult_certificate.cfm?n_id=441887 or you can view your place on the mural by following the link http://www.patriotdrive.org/act_search.cfm?pledgenum=441887 Our goal of four million online signatures to the pledge of Allegiance is very ambitious. To accomplish this goal, we need all the help we can get. If you haven't already done so, please tell your friends and family about this site and encourage them to pledge their Allegiance. You can get a sample letter at http://www.patriotdrive.org/dsp_email.cfm or write your own. Thank you for your commitment and patriotism. Your fellow patriots at http://www.patriotdrive.org

----- Original Message ----- From: skyhawk81g To: Billie Carol Wickham ; Steve Uncapher ; Janet Uncapher ; Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. ; Marilyn Seibert ; Ada Rumple ; Dottie Kohler ; Helen Joan Huston ; Charles Greishop Sent: Saturday, July 05, 2003 8:44 AM Subject: Fw: BOYCOT ----- Original Message ----- From: sam To: Wilma Robinson ; Vern Jones ; Susan Ellis ; Steve Uncapher ; skyhawk81g@wcoil.com ; SIS ; shelly vaughn ; pam may ; Ltwtruck2@aol.com ; LT COL MYERS ; LARRY ; kirstin-zoe ; Kim Semer ; Karen Trisel ; JWICK45680@aol.com ; John Hoch ; Jan Uncapher ; Gerald & Ellen Tibbe ; David A Hummel ; Charles Davis ; Carmen Hamilton ; B-T CRAWFORD ; Arthur Vorhes Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 8:26 PM Subject: Fw: BOYCOT says it all---- ----- Original Message ----- From: Fred Heath To: Aubrey Heath ; Arlene ; ASHickey ; Blueroseshirl ; Bob ; Bonnie Cheatham ; butch ; Chad Bailey ; Cindy Owen ; darlene586 ; Debbie ; Diane Heath ; duane beeman ; Elaine Purcell (E-mail) ; fayedeals ; floridab ; hheh ; Karen Guinn ; Mjb5372 ; nana1913 Owen ; rpcsr ; Scotty O'Quinn ; su286 ; Tami Heath ; terrible_ter ; Vonnie Purcell Sent: Friday, July 04, 2003 6:54 PM Subject: Fw: BOYCOT ----- Original Message ----- From: Wayne McGohan To: Amy Harp Cc: Andrew Shymkiw ; Ben Bunting ; Bill Raynore ; Bonnie Trapp ; Charles Raynore ; Cindy and Tony Ragalas ; dgood44930@aol.com goodrich ; diane heath ; Donald Ingleston ; Eloise Ann Kluth ; Frank Sharek ; FRED HEATH ; Genevive Trovota ; Harriet Crawford ; Henryb685@aol.com Brown ; James Romans ; Jim Kucharski ; John Brown ; John Wolford ; Judy Tingen ; Karen Allen ; Karen Klaich ; Keloway Howard ; Lee Cxxxxx ; Leland Smith ; Linda Jordon ; Linda Moonen ; Lugene White ; Pam Trapp ; Peggy Skinkle ; peggy wilson ; Richard Griffiths ; Richard Scaramelli ; Sandra King ; The Woodlief's Sent: Thursday, July 03, 2003 6:56 PM Subject: BOYCOT Read this!! If there is one thing you forward today.....let it be this. REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of PanAm Flight 103! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the World Trade Center in 1993! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the Marine barracks in Lebanon! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the military barracks in Saudi Arabia! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the American Embassies in Africa! REMEMBER the MUSLIM bombing of the USS COLE! REMEMBER the MUSLIM attack on the Twin Towers on 9/11/2001! REMEMBER all the AMERICAN lives that were lost in those vicious MUSLIM attacks! Now the United States Postal Service REMEMBERS and HONORS the EID MUSLIM holiday season with a commemorative first class holiday postage stamp. REMEMBER to adamantly and vocally BOYCOTT this stamp when purchasing your stamps at the post office. To use this stamp would be a slap in the face to all those AMERICANS who died at the hands of those whom this stamp honors. REMEMBER to pass this along to every patriotic AMERICAN you know. ________

To All, I went to the kidney Dr, yesterday. He is going to take out my right kidney. I knew this for some time now: but kept putting off going: as I am not the happiest camper in the woods, at the thought of haveing a kidney removed. But I know it has to be. So there is no sense in prolonging it any more. He is planning on the 23rd of this month. But wants me to see my family Dr. first. She is on vacation at the present; but will be backon the 14th. The kidney Dr. is planning on a week in the hospital; do to my extreamly bad breathing problem. ( This is due to smoking) So if ya smoke it would be a good idea to quit. Don't be a blockhead like I was, and wait till you are gasping for each breath you take. Pappy

This was sent to me by Gwen Uncapher A little something to make us appreciate our children(esp. during summer vacation!!!) THE COST OF CHILDREN I have seen repeatedly the breakdown of the cost of raising a child,but this is the first time I have seen the rewards listed this way . It's nice, really nice!! The government recently calculated the cost of raising a child from birth to 18 and came up with $160,140 for a middle income family. Talk about sticker shock! That doesn't even touch college tuition. But $160,140 isn't so bad if you break it down. It translates into $8,896.66 a year, $741.38 a month, or $171.08 a week. That's a mere $24.24 a day! Just over a dollar an hour. Still, you might think the best financial advice says don't have children if you want to be "rich." It is just the opposite. What do your get for your $160,140? 1. Naming rights. First, middle, and last! 2. Glimpses of God every day. 3. Giggles under the covers every night.. 4. More love than your heart can hold. 5. Butterfly kisses and Velcro hugs. 6. Endless wonder over rocks, ants, clouds, and warm cookies. 7. A hand to hold, usually covered with jam. 8. A partner for blowing bubbles, flying kites, building sand castles, and skipping down the sidewalk in the pouring rain. 9. Someone to laugh yourself silly with no matter what the boss said or how your stocks performed that day. 10. For $160,140, you never have to grow up. 11. You get to finger-paint, carve pumpkins, play hide-and-seek, catch lightning bugs, and never stop believing in Santa Claus. 12. You have an excuse to keep: reading the Adventures of Piglet and Pooh, watching Saturday morning cartoons, going to Disney movies, and wishing on stars. 13. You get to frame rainbows, hearts, and flowers under refrigerator magnets and collect spray painted noodle wreaths for Christmas, handprints set in clay for Mother's Day, and cards with backward letters for Father's Day. 14. For $160,140, there is no greater bang for your buck. 15. You get to be a hero just for retrieving a Frisbee off the garage roof, taking the training wheels off the bike, removing a splinter, filling a wading pool, coaxing a wad of gum out of bangs, and coaching a baseball team that never wins but always gets treated to ice cream regardless. 16. You get a front row seat to history to witness the first step, first word, first bra, first date, and first time behind the wheel. 17. You get to be immortal. 18. You get another branch added to your family tree, and if you're lucky, a long list of limbs in your obituary called grandchildren. 19. You get an education in psychology, nursing, criminal justice, communications, and human sexuality that no college can match. 20. In the eyes of a child, you rank right up there with God. You Have all the power to heal a boo-boo, scare away the monsters under the bed, patch a broken heart, police a slumber party, ground them forever, And love them without limits, so one day they will, like you, love without counting the cost.

----- Original Message ----- From: tom @ jan meeker To: lois margaret lee Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Branch To: EDITH DANIELS ; Joycetx22@wmconnect.com ; tom meeker ; Sandra Warchesik Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: Dtheresa To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian .Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian Subject: Re: Fwd: America is Christian Keep this moving, goodstuff speaks for itself. Samuel Thompson wrote: I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution. Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome... "But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations. Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.. The silent majority has been silent too long.. it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away .. we are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side! God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him... God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all..... God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God... May 2003 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions. Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, delete it!!

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----- Original Message ----- From: <CJFOXY46@aol.com> To: <spidot@bright.net>; <beckylauber@butter.toast.net>; <mattlavrar@sbcglobal.net>; <janetterpainter@wcoil.com>; <tuppie@bright.net> Cc: <JandP@Wcoil.com>; <skyhawk81g@wcoil.com>; <Consully1@Hotmail.com>; <Rwertenberger@Bright.net> Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 4:20 PM Subject: Fwd: Fw: Cell Phone/ Gas pump ----- Subject: Cell Phone/ Gas pump ----- Please read the email below from Shell Oil Co. regarding cell phone usage at the gas pumps. Pass it on to your people if you believe it may be of help. help. Thanks Subject: Shell Oil Co. Annoucement!! Importance: High The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in which mobile phone (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations. operations. In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline pump In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car. And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they were fueling their car. You should know that: Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release enough energy to provide a spark for ignition. Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling lawn mower, boat etc. Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, (i.e.solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.) To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules for Safe Refueling 1) Turn off engine 2) Don't smoke 3) Don't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off.!! 4) Don't re-enter your vehicle during fueling Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity" at gas pumps. pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires. His results were very surprising: 1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women. 2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle while the nozzle was still pumping gas. When finished, they went back to pull the nozzle out and the fire started, as a result of static. 3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes. 4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished. This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires. 5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas 6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when connected with static charges. 7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was re-entered and the nozzle was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some resuslted in extensive damge to the vehicle, to the station, and to the customer. 8) Seventeen fires occurred before, during or immediately after the gas cap was removed and before fueling began. Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it with gas. If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping, make sure you get out, , close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you ever pull the nozzle out. This way static from your body will be discharged before you remove the nozzle. As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware of this danger. You can find out more information by going to http://www.pei.org/> . Once here, click in the center of thescreen where it says "Stop Static". I ask you to please send this information to ALL your family & friends, especially those who have kids in the car with them while pumping gas. If this were to happen to them, they may not be able to get the children out in time.

----- Original Message ----- From: "Grassfire.net" <1. Alert@grassfire.net To: <skyhawk81g@wcoil.com Sent: Saturday, July 26, 2003 2:07 PM Subject: BOB HOPE, "THANKS FOR THE MEMORIES" 7/26/03 Dear Bernice, Over the last number of months, we've listened to an incessant bashing of our President and our troops by the Hollywood elite. Sadly, this generation of Hollywood stars all but turned their backs on our troops--preferring to protest and point fingers--a far cry from the Hollywood of old when stars lined up to lend their support. And now Americans have an unprecedented opportunity to honor one of the greatest of all, a man whose presence during war was both comforting and comical to generations who served. * * * 100TH BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE * * * Bob Hope often put his own life at risk to bring laughter to the frontlines in WW II, Korea, Vietnam and Operation Desert Storm. Now 100 years young, Grassfire.net wanted to do something special for a true American Patriot who selflessly shared his talent during our nation's darkest days! Over the last several months, we've been collecting personal notes, tributes and well wishes from thousands of his fans and friends from coast-to-coast, and are about to compile them into a beautifully crafted volume of tributes that will be presented to Mr. Hope and the Library of Congress. But before we went to press, we wanted to invite you to take part as well. To join Grassfire.net's Bob Hope Tribute, simply click here: http://www.grassfire.net/29/petition.asp?RID=4205093 WHERE HAVE ALL THE BOB HOPE'S GONE? Certainly not to Hollywood. Please take a moment to join our special 100th birthday tribute to a true Hollywood Star and American legend by clicking here: http://www.grassfire.net/29/petition.asp?RID=4205093 Thank you, and May God bless America. Grassfire.net (TM) Real Impact. Real Feedback. Real Results. P.S. After joining our personal tribute to Bob Hope, please remember to pass this invitation on to your friends and family-- urging them to tell Bob, "Thanks for the memories!" + + + + + + + + + + + + JOIN THE 100TH BIRTHDAY TRIBUTE TO BOB HOPE: http://www.grassfire.net/29/petition.asp?RID=4205093 ------------------------------------------- For Ms. Bernice Uncapher to unsubscribe, please go to: http://www.grassfire.net/uns.asp?cid=29?CID=26&RID=4205093&F=29 ------------------------------------------- You are signed up as: skyhawk81g@wcoil.com To change your email address: <a href=" http://www.grassfire.net/email.asp?rid=4205093 " Change email</a

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----- Original Message ----- From: "marilyn seibert" <1. seibace@bright.net To: "Terry Mulh" <MULHTL@earthlink.net ; <Shortmaria0323@aol.com ; "RENE FORST" <craftylady72@adelphia.net ; "Randy lee seibert" <randy.seibert@cn.ca ; "Phylliss Fell" <Pfell@bright.net ; "Peggy Seibert" <pssandjts@yahoo.com ; "pat brogan" <patriciabrogan@Charter.net ; "Mary Staas" <cmstaas@vcnet.com ; "judy mccune" <mccunejmm@yahoo.com ; "Jim Miller" <jmiller11@woh.rr.com ; "jackie penrod" <gert@loganrec.com ; "Gwen" <skyhawk81g@wcoil.com ; "Dianna" <crafty@sisna.com ; "DEEDAW" <Ddedaw@aol.com ; "Cheryl & Ron May" <Roncherylbran@cs.com ; "Budge" <MISTERBUDGE@aol.com Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:46 PM Subject: Fw: The Red Planet in our lifetime! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shirley Engel" <same@pulsenet.com To: "kathy weaver" <kitkatma151@yahoo.com ; "PAM TALPAS" <pam@mohawkconstruction.com ; "Betty Engel" <boop957@hotmail.com ; "Bruce Engel" <tps28@pulsenet.com ; "charlotte filby" <cfilby@aol.com ; "Richard Engel" <YinzGuyz@aol.com ; "bill barkley" <wbarkley@1st.net ; "patty jim" <pattyjim@stargate.net ; "marilyn seibert" <seibace@bright.net Sent: Wednesday, July 30, 2003 6:03 PM Subject: Fw: The Red Planet in our lifetime! ----- Original Message ----- From: Sally Yates <grandma_1st@hotmail.com To: <grandma_1st@hotmail.com Sent: Tuesday, July 29, 2003 8:13 PM Subject: Fwd: The Red Planet in our lifetime! Received this from a friend. Sounds interesting to me. Sally From: "Cox" <gse02111@mail.wvnet.edu To: "Eric Cox" <ericcox18@yahoo.com , "Sherry Johnston" <Sherry.Johnston@inmar.com , "Joan Roth" <RMIRACLELADY@aol.com , "Melissa D. Duty" <melissaduty@hotmail.com , "Tina Fry" <Jefftinafry@aol.com , "Sara Jane Yates" <grandma_1st@hotmail.com , "Larry Barker" <familybarker@earthlink.net , "Angie B. Cox" <angiebcox1@excite.com Subject: The Red Planet in our lifetime! Date: Tue, 29 Jul 2003 12:43:18 -0400 This was sent to me by a cousin's wife (To Sherry & Larry: Jay's wife, Peggy). Don't know, if city lights, etc. will affect the ability for some of you to see this well, but thought it worth passing on. This month and next, Earth is catching up with Mars, an encounter that will culminate in the closest approach between the two planets in recorded history. The next time Mars may come this close is in 2287. Due to the way Jupiter's gravity tugs on Mars and perturbs its orbit, astronomers can only be certain that Mars has not come this close to Earth in the last 5,000 years but it may be as long as 60,000 years. The encounter will culminate on August 27th when Mars comes to within 34,649,589 miles and will be (next to the moon) the brightest object in the night sky. It will attain a magnitude of -2.9 and will appear 25.11 arc seconds wide. At a modest 75-power magnification, Mars will look as large as the full moon to the naked eye. Mars will be easy to spot. At the beginning of August, Mars will rise in the east at 10 p.m. and reach its azimuth at about 3 a.m. But by the end of August when the two planets are closest, Mars will rise at nightfall and reach its highest point in the sky at 12:30 a.m. That's pretty convenient when it comes to seeing something that no human has seenin recorded history. So, mark your calendar at the beginning of August to see Mars grow progressively brighter and brighter throughout the month. Share this! No one alive today will ever see this again. _________________________________________________________________ The new MSN 8: smart spam protection and 2 months FREE* http://join.msn.com/?page=features/junkmail

----- Original Message ----- From: tom @ jan meeker To: lois margaret lee Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Branch To: EDITH DANIELS ; Joycetx22@wmconnect.com ; tom meeker ; Sandra Warchesik Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: Dtheresa To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian .Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian Subject: Re: Fwd: America is Christian Keep this moving, goodstuff speaks for itself. Samuel Thompson wrote: I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution. Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome... "But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations. Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.. The silent majority has been silent too long.. it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away .. we are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side! God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him... God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all..... God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God... May 2003 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions. Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, delete it!!

----- Original Message ----- From: tom @ jan meeker To: lois margaret lee Sent: Monday, July 21, 2003 9:51 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: Jane Branch To: EDITH DANIELS ; Joycetx22@wmconnect.com ; tom meeker ; Sandra Warchesik Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 8:08 PM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian ----- Original Message ----- From: Dtheresa To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, July 19, 2003 6:55 AM Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian .Subject: Fw: Re: Fwd: America is Christian Subject: Re: Fwd: America is Christian Keep this moving, goodstuff speaks for itself. Samuel Thompson wrote: I don't believe in Santa Claus, but I'm not going to sue somebody for singing a Ho-Ho-Ho song in December. I don't agree with Darwin, but I didn't go out and hire a lawyer when my high school teacher taught his theory of evolution. Life, liberty or your pursuit of happiness will not be endangered because someone says a 30-second prayer before a football game. So what's the big deal? It's not like somebody is up there reading the entire book of Acts. They're just talking to a God they believe in and asking him to grant safety to the players on the field and the fans going home from the game. "But it's a Christian prayer," some will argue. Yes, and this is the United States of America, a country founded on Christian principles. And we are in the Bible Belt. According to our very own phone book, Christian churches outnumber all others better than 200-to-1. So what would you expect-somebody chanting Hare Krishna? If I went to a football game in Jerusalem, I would expect to hear a Jewish prayer. If I went to a soccer game in Baghdad, I would expect to hear a Muslim prayer. If I went to a ping pong match in China, I would expect to hear someone pray to Buddha. And I wouldn't be offended. It wouldn't bother me one bit. When in Rome... "But what about the atheists?" is another argument. What about them? Nobody is asking them to be baptized. We're not going to pass the collection plate. Just humor us for 30 seconds. If that's asking too much, bring a Walkman or a pair of ear plugs. Go to the bathroom. Visit the concession stand. Call your lawyer. Unfortunately, one or two will make that call. One or two will tell thousands what they can and cannot do. I don't think a short prayer at a football game is going to shake the world's foundations. Christians are just sick and tired of turning the other cheek while our courts strip us of all our rights. Our parents and grandparents taught us to pray before eating, to pray before we go to sleep. Our Bible tells us just to pray without ceasing. Now a handful of people and their lawyers are telling us to cease praying. God, help us. And if that last sentence offends you, well..........just sue me.. The silent majority has been silent too long.. it's time we let that one or two who scream loud enough to be heard, that the vast majority don't care what they want.. it is time the majority rules! It's time we tell them, you don't have to pray.. you don't have to say the pledge of allegiance, you don't have to believe in God or attend services that honor Him. That is your right, and we will honor your right.. but by golly you are no longer going to take our rights away .. we are fighting back.. and we WILL WIN! After all the God you have the right to denounce is on our side! God bless us one and all, especially those who denounce Him... God bless America, despite all her faults.. still the greatest nation of all..... God bless our service men who are fighting to protect our right to pray and worship God... May 2003 be the year the silent majority is heard and we put God back as the foundation of our families and institutions. Keep looking up...... In God WE Trust If you agree with this, please pass it on. If not, delete it!!

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----- Original Message ----- From: Kelly Dustyn Taylor To: kellymcfan@yahoo.com Sent: Sunday, July 20, 2003 9:25 AM Subject: Hi All! I read of a man who stood to speak At the funeral of a friend He referred to the dates on her tombstone From the beginning...to the end. He noted that first came her date of birth And spoke the following date with tears, But he said what mattered most of all Was the dash between those years (1934 - 1998) For that dash represents all the time That she spent alive on earth... And now only those who loved her Know what that little line is worth. For it matters not, how much we own; The cars...the house...the cash, What matters is how we live and love And how we spend our dash. So think about this long and hard... Are there things you'd like to change? For you never know how much time is left, That can still be rearranged. If we could just slow down enough To consider what's true and real, And always try to understand The way other people feel. And be less quick to anger, And show appreciation more And love the people in our lives Like we've never loved before. If we treat each other with respect, And more often wear a smile.. Remembering that this special dash Might only last a little while So, when your eulogy's being read With your life's actions to rehash... Would you be proud of the things they say About how you spent your dash? If you have received this, it means that you are truly special to the one that sent this to you. I am glad that you're in my and part of my dash.

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A spokesman for the American Anglican Council said approval of Gene Robinson, a homosexual bishop, had already done irreparable damage to the Episcopal Church. ...A report says a United Nations group promoting homosexual rights met this week to sharpen a multi-pronged strategy that includes a "showdown with religion." While the Episcopal Church was meeting in Minneapolis to confirm a homosexual bishop and approve same-sex wedding ceremonies, the United Nations group known as "UNGLOBE" -- U.N. Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual Employees -- held a forum in New York where panel members singled out Roman Catholics and evangelical Protestants as opponents. According to WorldNetDaily, Paula Ettelbrick, representing a San Francisco homosexual group, announced a coming "showdown with religion," vowing to fight a Catholic Church campaign against homosexual marriage. Another panel member, Princeton University professor Anthony Appiah, wondered whether limits should be imposed on religion because it poses a "challenge" to the homosexual agenda. Meanwhile, the meeting was told that homosexual, bisexual, and transgender lawmakers from around the world will meet in San Diego this fall to coordinate their efforts. Those efforts include changing age-of-consent, obscenity, and pornography laws. ...If a denomination is striving honestly to remain true to biblical teachings, a person who is involved in deviant behavior should not be elevated to a position of leadership in that faith-tradition. That's the reaction of a Southern Baptist leader to the Episcopal Church's decision this week to confirm Gene Robinson, an open homosexual, as bishop for the diocese of New Hampshire. Dr. Richard Land, president of the Southern Baptist Convention's Ethics & Religious Liberty Commission, says that throughout the Bible, homosexual behavior is considered "deviant." Land says the issue of homosexual clergy is not a question of civil rights or of scriptural interpretation, but one of whether the Body of Christ is going to remain under the teachings of the apostles or whether it is going to become "apostate." Land puts it this way: "Are we going to put ourselves under the authority of scripture, or are we going to fall prey to the enticements of the devil to put question marks at the end of God's sentences?" Robinson has been quoted as saying he thinks the controversy over his appointment will blow over and people will adapt to his role when a homosexual bishop "walks in and the church walls don't fall down." Land says what Robinson does not seem to understand is that "the church is not the building and the walls may not fall down -- but the Spirit will depart." ...There are two separate drives under way to impeach six members of the U.S. Supreme Court -- specifically, the six who voted to repeal Texas' anti-sodomy law. 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The document, he explains, essentially says that all politicians -- not just those who claim to be Catholic -- are called to publicly oppose homosexual marriage and homosexual adoption. Ruse says those Catholic politicians who do not conform to the church's position could be denied communion and will be placing their immortal souls in jeopardy. The document was published by the Congregation for the Doctrine of the Faith, an office of the Vatican that ensures people know what the Catholic Church teaches. ...A black conservative activist says he is deeply troubled by a published report in The Washington Post that claims Secretary of State Colin Powell intends to step down in 2005, even if President Bush is re-elected. Powell himself has denounced the report, calling it "gossip and nonsense." But Niger Innis of the Congress of Racial Equality thinks the timing of the report about Powell stepping down -- regardless if it is true or false -- is not good for the White House right now. He says the rivalries that existed within the Administration "obviously were so profound" that Powell felt the need to respond to the report, if indeed it is correct and true. Innis believes Powell's often dovish stance on foreign policy actually provides a good balance for the president when he must make an important decision. ...In an effort to advance the "Roadmap for Peace" in the Middle East, the Israeli government this week released 150 members of the terrorist groups Hamas and Islamic Jihad. Josh Block of the American Israel Public Affairs Committee says the prisoners released were neither "murderers" nor in leadership roles with either of the terrorist groups and, therefore, constitute a low-level security risk. He calls their release a gesture that is "important and sincere." Block insists the really serious offenders will never be released to return to their killing efforts. ...A scene from Mel Gibson's new film about Jesus will be shown this weekend at a Christian festival in Anaheim, California. Harvest Crusade leader Greg Laurie says he'll show a four-minute scene from The Passion in which Jesus is flogged and hung on the cross. The film stars James Caviezel as Jesus during the last 12 hours of his life and Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdalene. The $25-million production features dialogue only in Latin and Aramaic, and may be released next spring without English subtitles. Gibson directed and helped finance the film, which some Jewish groups fear will revive charges that the Jews killed Jesus. Gibson says the real message is that we all killed Jesus, who died willingly to pay for our sins. ...A California-based Christian ministry for the disabled has released a unique learning resource for children. The "Joni and Friends" ministry has put together a missions project kit to support "Wheels for the World," an outreach which provides wheelchairs to those in need and shares Christ with the disabled. Joni Eareckson Tada, founder of Joni and Friends, says the five-day curriculum, which includes a video, is offered to churches conducting vacation Bible schools. Tada says that in the video she shares what it means to be disabled, how wheelchairs are collected around the country, and that prisoners in various correctional facilities volunteer to "shape up and shine up" the wheelchairs. The video also explains how the wheelchairs are taken overseas and tailored to fit the needs of disabled children. The evangelism outreach also includes a Bible for the parents of the children and an introduction to the gospel. Tada says the curriculum is a great way to raise disability awareness and teach young people the importance of overseas evangelism. ================== "Father, bless this person in whatever it is that You know he or she may be needing this day" Brother Bob, I think Christians need to start getting tough. These one from another country that will meet in San Dieago need dealt with when they are all together. The place they meet at should be bombed and set on fire. When they try comming out shoot them. Turning the other cheek time is over. We need to stand and fight. GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! Pappy

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Invitation to Visit Babylon the Great is Falling http://www.babylonthegreatisfalling.net You are welcome to visit my web site if you are interested in knowing more about political-religious events, including those in Israel and America, and how they relate to Bible prophecy. This is a one time offer and email. You are not on my mailing list unless you respond or request it. If you drop by my web site please let me know by signing the "guestbook" or dropping me an email. Thank you for reading this and I hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Jack D. Hook jdhook@cox.net

Hi Jack! It has been fascinating to me to study (a small part) your site. It does present a rather different view than is boringly posed by most on the subject of prophecy. I browsed through the first time I went there . . . then, returned to for further review. One thing that wasn't immediately apparent (at first glance) was your views toward government (America/Babylon), and government in particular. It occurred to me that sometimes we can get a better overview concerning one or another theories by what others have to say about an idea than from the individual posing the theory. It may be helpful if I explained . . . I once became rather fascinated with another 'new idea/view' on the net. I read a great deal of what was really a GREAT DEAL of data and most of it seemed 'right down the pike' in my own understanding of some things posted there. It then became odd in that that person, once one got deep down into his thesis that The United States of America was (in his theory) "That Great Satan.", and in the depths of his reasoning was at the heart of the Koran and Muslim teaching. In deed he was a very well educated Iraqi and had a hidden hatred of America. It wasn't apparent in his teaching until you worked your way down deep into his manifesto. We are taught by Scripture to be obedient to those that govern over us. We are also told that the country/people that protect/bless Israel would be likewise blessed. Jesus knew the need to obey/submit to government. Government next to Christianity is the only fence/wall against anarchy. If we have no restrainer -- especially in days like we now live, we would have simply that, un-restrained evil. Now there is much about America that is evil. There is also much about the formulated contemporary religious denominations that is now showing up as evil. Yesterday it was in the Daily Press how even the Church of God is now considering blessing/marrying divorced people. The Lutherans are considering accepting Gay into the body of (so called) faith. At this point I am not ready to take in the "(America/Babylon)" connection you seem to propose. I too have been down similar roads as you have traveled with much pain. However, I have in spite of many conflicts still remained true to my faith and committed to reach as many lost for Jesus Christ as humanly possible. My health conditions narrow my options to what I am doing at this very moment -- talking on the 3 Ws (WWW) about Jesus and the kingdom to come -- as well as, the kingdom in which we currently reside. Although you suffered much pain in your life experiences you must keep looking up, my Brother in Christ! The more time we spend talking about Satan and his activities the less time we have to talk about Jesus Christ and what He has done, is now doing, and will do when He returns. If you read any of my poorly presented writings you will notice that I too have gone through years of focusing on the Beast, Satan and evil in this world that is now and that is yet to come. We need, by NECESSITY, to understand all of that. However, when we have a fairly good idea of what is going on around us, and understand the evil we need then to turn away from that focus on our time on Satan & his devices, and turn our focused attention instead to the job yet to be done. When you speak of the fact that it is . . . >>" Hence, it is not the nation or the establishment in America that is sending out the gospel, but the Christians in it. . .", -- in a sense one would have to agree with that statement. However, you as well as myself, have spent time in many parts of the world. Believe me brother, America could be one of those countries that would prohibit and strongly fight any effort to spread the Gospel of Jesus Christ being preached. Just one Christ presenter I'll highlight here. The Bible Broadcasting Network (http://www.BBNradio.org) In just a few short years they are all over the globe emanating from The United States Of America. I have never witnessed more movement of the Holy Spirit as is presently going on throughout our country, America! It is precisely because Christians in America are allowed to share our precious faith that God has continued to bless this land we (I) hold so dear . . . although, recent actions would seem to be steering us in disastrous directions. It is for that reason we do need to spend some time at the helm of restraint -- after all, our government is us! It is churches, Christians and the so-called Christian nations that Satan hates the most and is spending all his efforts on to confuse and destroy. Oh, how much Satan would like to 'confuse our language' so that we speak a confused message. I think we both may have disdain for the Catholic (Roman) Church. However, no matter what you think of their doctrine, they are still known as a Christian religion. It is the "Christ" part of that churches name that Satan hates the most and is throwing everything he has toward them with an effort to bring it down. This is happening in most denominational organized religions. Satan does not deserve Christian assistance to bring them down and to destroy them. I firmly believe there are TRUE Believers in all Christian based religions and their names will be called when Christ returns. I am going on and on far too much I reckon, but you and your writings/beliefs fascinate me. All we are really called out to be doing at this time in world history is to be Working, Watching and Ready for His return. This means spread the Gospel to every NATION!/people/land. All word semantics -- throw in the word government. We can work ourselves into a lather trying to fight the one that only Christ himself will be able to put down. He is Satan. No other name need be used. Everyone knows who we speak of when we use the word 'Satan.' I've run the gamete from being raised in an Independent Fundamental Premilinial Baptist church on a hillside in Pennsylvania in the 1950s. There was never a better feeling experience in my memory than the days when I went there every time the door was opened. I attended Philadelphia Bible Institute, served in the government, graduated from Southeastern Baptist Theological Seminary (that was very liberal at that time), Duke University Divinity School (more than liberal theology -- heresy), Ordained a Baptist Minister of the Gospel, and lost it all after some years as a United Methodist Minister. It was the last experience that became my Viet Nam. I was recently pleased that they threw down the proposal to be "all inclusive" in accepting the Gay lifestyle into the clergy. Friend. We have a lot to be thankful for. We have a lot to fear. Times are changing at sound-breaking speed. We are challenged as never before. Hang on Brother, our redemption draweth nigh! Warm regards in Christ Jesus our Lord . . . Because of Calvary! Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Hook To: Bob Craig Sent: Sunday, August 10, 2003 1:15 PM Subject: Re: Invitation to Visit Hi Bob. Thanks for the reply. It is always great to meet new friends on the net, especially brothers in the family of our Lord Jesus Christ. I look at America/Babylon differently than most in prophecy circles. As I understand Jesus and the New Testament, all governments and nations are controlled by the devil, allowed by God, until Jesus returns. Hence, it is not the nation or the establishment in America that is sending out the gospel, but the Christians in it. This is true of any nation. Furthermore, most of what is sent out is part of the great harlot anyway, not the true gospel. See you in Heaven soon my friend. Jack ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 3:38 PM Subject: Re: Invitation to Visit I have spent some more time reading "Your Comments" section and am impressed, again, with what you have to say. We are not all together on the same page in every respect but -- I do respect where you are coming from. One question (you may have already covered this somewhere), "What other nation is spreading the Salvation Message all over the earth other than the USA?" Warm regards, Bob Craig ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:49 PM Subject: Re: Invitation to Visit I was pleased and really impressed with your site. It is my desire to obtain that sort of professional looking site if I am blessed with the time to do so. The testimony, the statement of faith and all of the other things you make available is as far as I can see 'right on target.' I am so thankful you sent me an "Invitation to Visit." Thank you for doing that. Again, all I can say is that "I am so impressed." I would like to link to your site. That is the only way I can keep up with it all. There is so much going on in our world today and I hate to waste time sleeping! I feel as though Christ could come at any moment and I don't want to miss one second of the experience. God bless you and the work you are doing. We can only pray that our close family won't be found wanting! Again, Blessings to you because of Calvary . . . http://craig_pages.tripod.com/Bible_Study/Revelation/jobindex.htm ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jack Hook To: rcraig5@cox.net Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 5:11 PM Subject: Invitation to Visit Invitation to Visit Babylon the Great is Falling http://www.babylonthegreatisfalling.net You are welcome to visit my web site if you are interested in knowing more about political-religious events, including those in Israel and America, and how they relate to Bible prophecy. This is a one time offer and email. You are not on my mailing list unless you respond or request it. If you drop by my web site please let me know by signing the "guestbook" or dropping me an email. Thank you for reading this and I hope to hear from you soon. Sincerely, Jack D. Hook jdhook@cox.net

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Brother Bob, This was sent to me by Yvonne Armentrout. I think it has been around a few times before . GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! A well-known speaker started off his seminar by holding up a $20.00 bill. In the room of 200, he asked, "Who would like this $20 bill?" Hands started going up. He said, "I am going to give this $20 to one of you but first, let me do this. He proceeded to crumple the $20 dollar bill up. He then asked, "Who still wants it?" Still the hands were up in the air. Well, he replied, "What if I do this?" And he dropped it on the ground and started to grind it into the floor with his shoe. He picked it up, now crumpled and dirty. "Now, who still wants it?" Still the hands went into the air. My friends, we have all learned a very valuable lesson. No matter what I did to the money, you still wanted it because it did not decrease in value. It was still worth $20! Many times in our lives, we are dropped, crumpled, and ground into the dirt by the decisions we make and the circumstances that come our way. We feel as though we are worthless. But no matter what has happened or what will happen, you will never lose your value. Dirty or clean, crumpled or finely creased, you are still priceless to those who DO LOVE you. The worth of our lives comes not in what we do or who we know, but by WHO WE ARE. You are special - Don't EVER forget it." If you do not pass this on, you may never know the lives it touches, the hurting hearts it speaks to, or the hope that it can bring. Count your blessings, not your problems. And remember: amateurs built the ark ...professionals built the Titanic. If God brings you to it - He will bring you through it. Pass this message to 7 people except you and me. You will receive a miracle tomorrow. Have a grand ol'e day.

Brother Bob, I got this from Yvonne Armentrout. It is real funny GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! WHY DID GOD MAKE MOTHERSThe following are different answers given by school-age children to the given question: Why did God make mothers? 1.She's the only one who knows where the scotch tape is. 2.Think about it, it was the best way to get more people. 3.Mostly to clean the house. 4.To help us out of there when we were getting born. How did God make mothers? 1. He used dirt, just like for the rest of us. 2. Magic plus super powers and a lot of stirring. 3. God made my mom just the same like he made me. He just used bigger parts. Why did God give you your mother and not some other mom? 1. We're related. 2. God knew she likes me a lot more than other people's moms like me. What ingredients are mothers made of? 1. God makes mothers out of clouds and angel hair and everything nice in the world and one dab of mean. 2. They had to get their start from men's bones. Then they mostly use string. I think. What kind of little girl was your mom? 1. My mom has always been my mom and none of that other stuff. 2. I don't know because I wasn't there, but my guess would be pretty bossy. 3. They say she used to be nice. How did your mom meet your dad? 1. Mom was working in a store and dad was shoplifting. What did mom need to know about dad before she married him? 1. His last name. 2. She had to know his background. Like is he a crook? Does he get drunk on beer? Does he make at least $800 a year? Did he say NO to drugs and YES to chores. Why did your mom marry your dad? 1. My dad makes the best spaghetti in the world. And my mom eats a lot. 2. She got too old to do anything else with him. 3. My grandma says that mom didn't have her thinking cap on. What makes a real woman? 1. It means you have to be really bossy without looking bossy. Who's the boss at your house? 1. Mom doesn't want to be boss, but she has to because dads such a goofball. 2. Mom. You can tell by room inspection. She sees the stuff under the bed. 3. I guess Mom is, but only because she has a lot more to do than dad. What's the difference between moms and dads? 1. Moms work at work and work at home, and dads just got to work at work. 2. Moms know how to talk to teachers without scaring them. 3. Dads are taller and stronger, but moms have the real power 'cause that's who you gotta ask if you want to sleep over at your friend's. What does your mom do in her spare time? 1. Mothers don't do spare time. 2.To hear her tell it, she pays bills all day long. What's the difference between moms and grandmas? 1. About 30 years. 2. You can always count on grandmothers for candy. Sometimes moms don't even have bread on them! Describe the world's greatest mom? 1. She would make broccoli taste like ice cream! 2. The greatest mom in the world wouldn't make me kiss my fat aunts! 3. She'd always be smiling and keep her opinions to herself. Is anything about your mom perfect? 1. Her teeth are perfect, but she bought them from the dentist. 2. Her casserole recipes. But we hate them. 3. Just her children. What would it take to make your mom perfect? 1. On the inside she's already perfect. Outside, I think some kind of plastic surgery. 2. Diet. You know, her hair. I'd dye-it, maybe blue. If you could change one thing about your mom, what would it be? 1. She has this weird thing about me keeping my room clean. I'd get rid of that. 2. I'd make my mom smarter. Then she would know it was my sister who did it and not me.

Hi Bob, Thanks for all of your updates of photos. My grandson Matt took the sunrise with a Sony digital 2.0 Mega Pixel. I have been using a Cannon Power Shot G3, 4.0 Mega Pixel since last Christmas. I will check the resolution and let you know. Now since I am only a PK, and you are the Minister; after sleeping on your email related to health problems, I offer the following. You have infinite knowledge. Remember the book by Norman Vincent Peal, The Power of Positive Thinking. Keep your mind active. Write new Sermons and publish them. You could become a Biblical Consultant and put on Seminars [ good mental exercise and a money maker]. In 1992, when my wife Inez went on to heaven; I put my business on hold for 60 days and read, did research and wrote construction articles; such as Construction Problem Avoidance, CPM Schedules for Construction. Later a Lawyer and I put on Seminars for 40 lawyers at the Va. AG's office on CPM Schedules. This helped keep me active. Then after my triple heart bypass in 1993, I bounced back to work for two months and had a minor stroke. Today I am busy with work, on church building committee, active in three construction organizations, on club building committee, editor of CSI monthly newsletter, Board member of DPC SIG, international Project Management organization, enjoy playing with grandchildren and great-grandchildren. Just last month took my heart stress test and passed with flying colors, last week saw my Neurologist and medicine keeps my carotid artery open. Fried, you too can bounce back to the good old days. Check out the enigma of life. May our Lord bless you and your family. Regards, Cousin Norman Thank you Cousin Norman I read your words with much interest and wonderment. You have overcome great odds and seem to be quite settled. I won't say I can't . . . But it has all been up-hill. This that I am doing right now seems to be the best I can do at the moment. I really wish I had your drive. I condemn myself all the time for being simply lazy. But it can't be. I've done, and enjoyed doing, all my life. Can't even enter the church door as of last few years. Your story does though spur my mind on to at least consider some things. Not much with it today . . . Have changed some photos in the following URL: http://craigpages4.bravepages.com/normjacobs/norm13/normjacobs13.html Again, thank you more than you can know. Bob C PS: Check out the INDEX at the tope of each page. ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html

I feel quite horned that you would make the request. Of course you can use anything I have. I would be interested in your group and what you are doing. Because of Calvary . . . Bob C >>>> ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html >>>>Robert Your guestbook has just been signed by Jake Harmon (jakeharmon@charter.net) from Wilmington,NC. You can login now with your username (BobCraig) and password to authorize or delete the new entry at http://guestbooks.christiansunite.com/login.shtml GUEST'S MESSAGE: I was reading you comments in Jack D Hooks guest book and was wondering if i may copy and use in our group.I find your comments to be very astute. _________________________________________________________________ Click for a FREE bestselling book, Revolution in World Missions http://christiansunite.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?2.1.17 I see you,your on daily digest.Welcome Bob. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830

THE HOMOSEXUAL BISHOP The Episcopal Church's bishops have dropped charges against an open homosexual and made him the new bishop of the Episcopal Diocese of New Hampshire by a 62-45 vote. But new and far more serious charges have been brought against him by the very Bible he preaches. The Bible, by which Bishop Gene Robinson justifies his salary, his sermons and his authority, indicts him with these 10 crimes: 1. Robinson is charged with failing to rule his home and abandoning his children: "A bishop then must be . . . One that ruleth well his own house, having his children in subjection with all gravity (For if a man know not how to rule his own house, how shall he take care of the church of God?)" (I Timothy 3:1, 5). 2. He is charged with adultery for having sex with his wife and another person: "Thou shalt not commit adultery" (Exodus 20:14). 3. The Episcopal leader is charged with sodomy, which is an abomination to God, "And there were also sodomites in the land: and they did according to all the abominations of the nations which the LORD cast out before the children of Israel" (1 Kings 14:24). 4. The new bishop is charged with wrecking church member's faith and causing some to leave the church: "Woe be unto the pastors that destroy and scatter the sheep of my pasture! saith the LORD" (Jeremiah 23:1). 5. Robinson is charged with abandoning his wife, disqualifying him from the office of a bishop: "A bishop then must be . . . the husband of one wife" (I Timothy 3:2). 6. He is charged with not having a good reputation among those outside the church: "Moreover he (a bishop) must have a good report of them which are without" (1 Tim. 3:2-7) 7. Robinson stands charged with being self-willed, putting his own advancement ahead of the welfare of the church: "For a bishop must be blameless, not selfwilled" (Titus 1:7). 8. The bishop is charged with abandoning the word of God, the Bible, to teach the ideas of men: "For a bishop (must be one who is) Holding fast the faithful word as he hath been taught, that he may be able by sound doctrine both to exhort and to convince the gainsayers" (Titus 1:7, 9). 9. He is charged with defiling the holy house of God: "There shall be no whore of the daughters of Israel, nor a sodomite of the sons of Israel. Thou shalt not bring the hire of a whore, or the price of a dog (male prostitute), into the house of the LORD thy God for any vow: for even both these are abomination unto the LORD thy God" (Deut. 23:17-18). 10.Robinson is charged with sexually abusing himself with a man, a crime which bars people from heaven: "Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: "Neither . . . effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind . . . shall inherit the kingdom of God" (1 Corinthians 6:9, 10). Robinson has been given considerable time to renounce his crimes against God, repent and turn to Jesus Christ for mercy. But it remains, "appointed unto men once to die, but after this the judgment" (Hebrews 9:27). On that day, neither public opinion nor the opinions of the Episcopal bishops will be of any consequence. (The above was authored by my good friend Dr. Moody Adams. It is reprinted as this week's update because I believe it exposes the true Biblical issue behind the division in the church being caused by the acceptance of homosexual behavior in our society. To e-mail comments to Dr. Adams click here. The conservative members of the Anglican Church maintain an Internet site and their comments on a "gay" bishop may be found here.

Brother Bob, What do you suppose men like D.L. Moody, R.A. Torrey and Billy Sunday would have to say if they were active today ? I think we need more fire in the pulpits. They are only focusing on GOD'S love and grace through CHRIST. How about the other side of the coin. Let people know that they will be wishing they were else where when they face the WRATH OF GOD. They can bend their knees and bow their head willingly now or wait and do it forcefully later. But rest asure they will kneel and bow. Madder than Hops Pappy ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:03 PM Subject: Re: Group Meets Hi Pappy!, my Brother Funny you should send this. I was watching the History Channel last night - NOTHING worth watching anywhere else ~ They had a special on terrorism and how it all began with Tom Brown having to do before the Civil War and how he was really the father of Terrorism. He was revered and hunted down . . . but his ruthlessness was rewarded and is today as being a cause worth doing. I wonder how they will explain 9/11 in reference to that in the history books. No matter ~ they will rewrite it all and tidy it all up by making it politically correct. I'm in the same boat with you on all of these things. Might give posthumously a ribbon to the Abortion Bombings and killing of Dr.s that kill babies some-day long after we have gone to a better place. We have to be in the last days. Everything points to it. Satan is busier than recorded history reveals. Seems as though he is trying to get all his agenda in place and is hurrying up to finish it all before he faces his known demise. Whew! What a time to be alive. I am fearful - - - but at the same time excited. We may really be alive when Christ returns! Love and Grace in Jesus Christ, Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Saturday, August 09, 2003 2:28 AM A report says a United Nations group promoting homosexual rights met this week to sharpen a multi-pronged strategy that includes a "showdown with religion." While the Episcopal Church was meeting in Minneapolis to confirm a homosexual bishop and approve same-sex wedding ceremonies, the United Nations group known as "UNGLOBE" -- U.N. Gay, Lesbian or Bisexual Employees -- held a forum in New York where panel members singled out Roman Catholics and evangelical Protestants as opponents. According to WorldNetDaily, Paula Ettelbrick, representing a San Francisco homosexual group, announced a coming "showdown with religion," vowing to fight a Catholic Church campaign against homosexual marriage. Another panel member, Princeton University professor Anthony Appiah, wondered whether limits should be imposed on religion because it poses a "challenge" to the homosexual agenda. Meanwhile, the meeting was told that homosexual, bisexual, and transgender lawmakers from around the world will meet in San Diego this fall to coordinate their efforts. Those efforts include changing age-of-consent, obscenity, and pornography laws. Brother Bob, I think Christians need to start getting tough. These one from another country that will meet in San Dieago need dealt with when they are all together. The place they meet at should be bombed and set on fire. When they try comming out shoot them. Turning the other cheek time is over. We need to stand and fight. GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! Pappy

The United Fellowship of Interfaith Ministers Thank you for joining! From: Rev. Dr. J.W. Stansell, High Priest Rev. Dr. Jan Stansell, High Priestess Rev. Fr. Daniel Stansell, D.D. To: New Member As the owners of this group we would like to thank you for joining, and to extend a warm welcome to you. We certainly hope that you enjoy your stay with us. We hope you will post an introduction of yourself to the group. Please feel free to post your articles, announcements, files, photos, and/or links. This is your group, and we want you to feel free to express yourself here. Just remember that we are an INTERFAITH group that is very close. We respect all paths and beliefs. We do not tolerate the bashing of any beliefs. Blessed Be

Hello again Pastor Brother Jake Harmon I followed the link on your E-mail and joined my name to your membership. Companionate ministry is a sign of a Christ-like endeavor, and that we all need to do more of. Blessings in Christ Jesus. Bob C http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Harmon To: Bob Craig Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Thank you We are a group of Ministers of all walks and beliefs.We discuss everything from apples to Zebras.I found your comments very enlightening and worth deeper studies.I wanted your permission before i posted with a link to you as the author. Till he comes,Jake CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Thank you I feel quite horned that you would make the request. Of course you can use anything I have. I would be interested in your group and what you are doing. Because of Calvary . . . Bob C >>>> ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html >>>>Robert Your guestbook has just been signed by Jake Harmon (jakeharmon@charter.net) from Wilmington,NC. You can login now with your username (BobCraig) and password to authorize or delete the new entry at http://guestbooks.christiansunite.com/login.shtml GUEST'S MESSAGE: I was reading you comments in Jack D Hooks guest book and was wondering if i may copy and use in our group.I find your comments to be very astute. _________________________________________________________________ Click for a FREE bestselling book, Revolution in World Missions http://christiansunite.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?2.1.17 Great day, Brother Pastor Jake, to you The URL below is where I ended up. Not quite sure I got to where you and your brothers are. Let me know. In the mean time I shall likely find you and your group at the link on this, your Email to me. All blessings in Christ Bob C >>> Hello, Welcome to the unitedinterfaithministers group at Yahoo! Groups, a free, easy-to-use email group service. Please take a moment to review this message. To learn more about the unitedinterfaithministers group, please visit http://groups.yahoo.com/group/unitedinterfaithministers To start sending messages to members of this group, simply send email to unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com If you do not wish to belong to unitedinterfaithministers, you may unsubscribe by sending an email to unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com To see and modify all of your groups, go to http://groups.yahoo.com/mygroups Regards, Moderator, unitedinterfaithministers Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to http://docs.yahoo.com/info/terms/ ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Harmon To: Bob Craig Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:00 PM Subject: Re: Thank you Bro.Craig,which one did you join? CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Jake Harmon Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Thank you Hello again Pastor Brother Jake Harmon I followed the link on your E-mail and joined my name to your membership. Companionate ministry is a sign of a Christ-like endeavor, and that we all need to do more of. Blessings in Christ Jesus. Bob C http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Harmon To: Bob Craig Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Thank you We are a group of Ministers of all walks and beliefs.We discuss everything from apples to Zebras.I found your comments very enlightening and worth deeper studies.I wanted your permission before i posted with a link to you as the author. Till he comes,Jake CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Thank you I feel quite horned that you would make the request. Of course you can use anything I have. I would be interested in your group and what you are doing. Because of Calvary . . . Bob C >>>> ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html >>>>Robert Your guestbook has just been signed by Jake Harmon (jakeharmon@charter.net) from Wilmington,NC. You can login now with your username (BobCraig) and password to authorize or delete the new entry at http://guestbooks.christiansunite.com/login.shtml GUEST'S MESSAGE: I was reading you comments in Jack D Hooks guest book and was wondering if i may copy and use in our group.I find your comments to be very astute. _________________________________________________________________ Click for a FREE bestselling book, Revolution in World Missions http://christiansunite.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?2.1.17 Thank you Brother Jake for your kind remarks! I find I need special blessings so much of the time. Over time so many Brothers and Sisters in Christ have sent me links to these Special Blessings and I felt the need to share them with others. Much/most did not originate from me so I owe praise to those who cared enough to send encouragement and uplifting messages that seem to have been a response to my prayers for God's blessings at tough times. Nearly every day I return to the "pageofblessings.html" and I am again blessed all over. I don't believe I have visited them all myself. Some change from time to time. I have to give credit to the Holy Spirit because anything you find there is farm more than I am capable of producing. I pray for God's richest blessings to be on their way to you and those you minister to. Warm regards, Bob C ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html ----- Original Message ----- From: <Nobody@christiansunite.com> To: <rcraig5@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:20 PM Subject: Your guestbook has just been signed! > Robert > > Your guestbook has just been signed by Jake (jakeharmon@charter.net) from Wilmington,NC.USA. > > You can login now with your username (BobCraig) and password to authorize or delete the new entry at > http://guestbooks.christiansunite.com/login.shtml > > GUEST'S MESSAGE: > Bro.Craig,now i have seen a lot of web sites that have blessed me.Your is just so amazing,that i find it hard to see it all in one visit.What a blessing you and this web site or to many who visit here.You Done Good Brother.May the blessing of our Lord be with you and yours.Jake > > _________________________________________________________________ > Click for a FREE bestselling book, Revolution in World Missions > http://christiansunite.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?2.1.17 > > Bro.Craig,which one did you join? CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Jake Harmon Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 6:14 PM Subject: Re: Thank you Hello again Pastor Brother Jake Harmon I followed the link on your E-mail and joined my name to your membership. Companionate ministry is a sign of a Christ-like endeavor, and that we all need to do more of. Blessings in Christ Jesus. Bob C http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Jake Harmon To: Bob Craig Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:33 PM Subject: Re: Thank you We are a group of Ministers of all walks and beliefs.We discuss everything from apples to Zebras.I found your comments very enlightening and worth deeper studies.I wanted your permission before i posted with a link to you as the author. Till he comes,Jake CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 9:02 PM Subject: Thank you I feel quite horned that you would make the request. Of course you can use anything I have. I would be interested in your group and what you are doing. Because of Calvary . . . Bob C >>>> ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigPages.html >>>>Robert Your guestbook has just been signed by Jake Harmon (jakeharmon@charter.net) from Wilmington,NC. You can login now with your username (BobCraig) and password to authorize or delete the new entry at http://guestbooks.christiansunite.com/login.shtml GUEST'S MESSAGE: I was reading you comments in Jack D Hooks guest book and was wondering if i may copy and use in our group.I find your comments to be very astute. _________________________________________________________________ Click for a FREE bestselling book, Revolution in World Missions http://christiansunite.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?2.1.17 Robert Your guestbook has just been signed by Jake (jakeharmon@charter.net) from Wilmington,NC.USA. You can login now with your username (BobCraig) and password to authorize or delete the new entry at http://guestbooks.christiansunite.com/login.shtml GUEST'S MESSAGE: Bro.Craig,now i have seen a lot of web sites that have blessed me.Your is just so amazing,that i find it hard to see it all in one visit.What a blessing you and this web site or to many who visit here.You Done Good Brother.May the blessing of our Lord be with you and yours.Jake _________________________________________________________________ Click for a FREE bestselling book, Revolution in World Missions http://christiansunite.com/cgi-bin/cl.pl?2.1.17 ------------------------ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ---------------------~--> Buy Ink Cartridges or Refill Kits for Your HP, Epson, Canon or Lexmark Printer at Myinks.com. Free s/h on orders $50 or more to the US & Canada. http://www.c1tracking.com/l.asp?cid=5511 http://us.click.yahoo.com/l.m7sD/LIdGAA/qnsNAA/CtTslB/TM ---------------------------------------------------------------------~-> To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com ------------------------------------------------------------------------ There are 23 messages in this issue. Topics in this digest: 1. Re: Smiles and thanks From: "Thomas Ruddick" <truddick@earthlink.net> 2. Re: Re: Smiles and thanks From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> 3. Re: Smiles and thanks From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 4. Re: Smiles and thanks From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 5. Re: Smiles and thanks From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 6. Re: Re: Smiles and thanks From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 7. Does Anyone Have Any Of His Papers? From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 8. If It Happened, It Happened From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 9. Yoga And Golf From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 10. No More Lost Pages From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 11. Flesh and Spirit From: Sunny Simmons Steincamp <amarisse@amarisse.net> 12. Some Really Heavy Grey Matter From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 13. Re: Flesh and Spirit From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 14. Work Hiatus From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 15. Re: No More Lost Pages From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> 16. Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus From: "Jake Harmon" <jakeharmon@charter.net> 17. Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> 18. Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus From: "Jake Harmon" <jakeharmon@charter.net> 19. Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 20. Re: No More Lost Pages From: ReverendDoctor@webtv.net 21. Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> 22. ULC Church In Knoxville, Tennessee From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> 23. Empire From: Ambrose Hawk <ahawk@centurytel.net> ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 1 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:54:53 -0000 From: "Thomas Ruddick" <truddick@earthlink.net> Subject: Re: Smiles and thanks --- In unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com, "woogiedad" <woogiedad@n...> wrote: > Hello and Merry Meet to all, [edit] > By way of religious tolerance, I am a staunch proponent, seeing as I am what > is referred to in a most politic manner as "a religious minority." We're kindred spirits on that point-- > The > reason why I bring this up is because I have been finding more and more > cause to believe that Americans are finding more and more reasons to demand > religious hegemony in their leaders and in the social fabric. One of the > things I have taken to citing is the rabid nature with which people jumped > on the Catholic Church over the sex abuse scandals (Boston aside), [edit] What I mean is, in the case of the Catholic > Church, less than 1% of the priests/brothers in the U.S. were guilty of any > wrong doing, yet ALL were painted with the same brush. Why? Because > religious hegemony has become the order of the day. If one Catholic priest > fondled a boy, then because they are all the same, they are all guilty of > this crime. I'd like to explore this one, it's a point that I don't think I know about. On the one hand, many people who are tarring the Roman Catholics as a group are doing so out of simplistic, overly concrete thinking. The Roman Catholic church (or any group) is stereotyped by these people; all members are alike in all important ways. It's the same sort of thinking that's causing some people to think of Kobe Bryant with OJ Simpson (to use a non-religious comparison). The reasons you cited, I think, are true for others who are universally condemning the Roman church. Then there are others (like me) who look at the sex scandals (and are aware that they exist in the Church of the Brethren, the Southern Baptist Church, Hare Krishnas, Branch Dividians, and certainly among Islam clerics in nations where rape is considered a valid means of discipline) and who see a deep pattern. The Roman Catholic church (and the others I cited) are a strictly authoritarian hierarchy. The man at the top (and I use the word "man" descriptively--there are never women in positions of power in these groups) makes all the rules, and the people at the bottom are never supposed to question them or even try to suggest alternatives. The consequences, I think, of this sort of restrictive, top-down religion are predictable. I expect that every denomination that squelches independent thinking will wind up with many members of the clergy who take up the ministry not to serve the faithful and to glorify that which is good, but to exploit the absolute power of their position for personal selfishness. My condemnation of Roman Catholics is not strong nor universal, but the sheer number of cases of sexual abuse (thousands per year! in the USA alone) indicates that there was a very entrenched custom of "letting the priests play" in the leadership of the church. Note that many bishops made public statements that concentrated on scorching those who exposed the sexual abuse--why should anyone criticize someone who tried to stop such widespread pederasty? I feel bad for people like my mother-in-law; a thoroughly decent person who has been devoted to the Roman Catholic faith for all her life; now faced with the stunning realization that her support has gone, in part, to an organization that protected child molesters, and to cash payments and legal settlements that resulted from the iniquity. I know that, if I were in her position, I would angrily reject the institution as a whole and regret having given anything to them. In her case, I think there's a different resolution. Summing up--since I can get my meaning lost in my words I think just as well as you say that you can :-) --I think it is fair to paint the entire Roman Catholic hierarchy as complicit in this evil. Though I'd insist that many individual priests and bishops and nuns are innocent of personal wrongdoing, I can see that any institution that promotes absolute power and authority will inevitably support the abuse of the subordinates. This is true of sports teams (consider the number of coaches who are convicted of sexual contact with players)--and the military (tailhook, air force academy, etc.)--and churches. T R ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 06:49:36 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Re: Smiles and thanks so true, what yo wrote, it doesnt matter what religious path you are on, 9 times out of 10 there will be bad folks amongst them. just like once i was mugged by a black person, I had to let my children know just because one did it doesnt make them all bad. Thomas Ruddick <truddick@earthlink.net> wrote: --- In unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com, "woogiedad" <woogiedad@n...> wrote: > Hello and Merry Meet to all, [edit] > By way of religious tolerance, I am a staunch proponent, seeing as I am what > is referred to in a most politic manner as "a religious minority." We're kindred spirits on that point-- > The > reason why I bring this up is because I have been finding more and more > cause to believe that Americans are finding more and more reasons to demand > religious hegemony in their leaders and in the social fabric. One of the > things I have taken to citing is the rabid nature with which people jumped > on the Catholic Church over the sex abuse scandals (Boston aside), [edit] What I mean is, in the case of the Catholic > Church, less than 1% of the priests/brothers in the U.S. were guilty of any > wrong doing, yet ALL were painted with the same brush. Why? Because > religious hegemony has become the order of the day. If one Catholic priest > fondled a boy, then because they are all the same, they are all guilty of > this crime. I'd like to explore this one, it's a point that I don't think I know about. On the one hand, many people who are tarring the Roman Catholics as a group are doing so out of simplistic, overly concrete thinking. The Roman Catholic church (or any group) is stereotyped by these people; all members are alike in all important ways. It's the same sort of thinking that's causing some people to think of Kobe Bryant with OJ Simpson (to use a non-religious comparison). The reasons you cited, I think, are true for others who are universally condemning the Roman church. Then there are others (like me) who look at the sex scandals (and are aware that they exist in the Church of the Brethren, the Southern Baptist Church, Hare Krishnas, Branch Dividians, and certainly among Islam clerics in nations where rape is considered a valid means of discipline) and who see a deep pattern. The Roman Catholic church (and the others I cited) are a strictly authoritarian hierarchy. The man at the top (and I use the word "man" descriptively--there are never women in positions of power in these groups) makes all the rules, and the people at the bottom are never supposed to question them or even try to suggest alternatives. The consequences, I think, of this sort of restrictive, top-down religion are predictable. I expect that every denomination that squelches independent thinking will wind up with many members of the clergy who take up the ministry not to serve the faithful and to glorify that which is good, but to exploit the absolute power of their position for personal selfishness. My condemnation of Roman Catholics is not strong nor universal, but the sheer number of cases of sexual abuse (thousands per year! in the USA alone) indicates that there was a very entrenched custom of "letting the priests play" in the leadership of the church. Note that many bishops made public statements that concentrated on scorching those who exposed the sexual abuse--why should anyone criticize someone who tried to stop such widespread pederasty? I feel bad for people like my mother-in-law; a thoroughly decent person who has been devoted to the Roman Catholic faith for all her life; now faced with the stunning realization that her support has gone, in part, to an organization that protected child molesters, and to cash payments and legal settlements that resulted from the iniquity. I know that, if I were in her position, I would angrily reject the institution as a whole and regret having given anything to them. In her case, I think there's a different resolution. Summing up--since I can get my meaning lost in my words I think just as well as you say that you can :-) --I think it is fair to paint the entire Roman Catholic hierarchy as complicit in this evil. Though I'd insist that many individual priests and bishops and nuns are innocent of personal wrongdoing, I can see that any institution that promotes absolute power and authority will inevitably support the abuse of the subordinates. This is true of sports teams (consider the number of coaches who are convicted of sexual contact with players)--and the military (tailhook, air force academy, etc.)--and churches. T R Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 3 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:11:14 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Re: Smiles and thanks Thank you, Rev. Dee, for those kind words. Guess we are all targets of those who follow the "flesh" and not the Spirit. We get it from sanctimonious flesh seekers and evil flesh seekers with equal ferocity. The Spirit is our only guide and our sufficient armor against the evolved among us, those not yet capable or unwilling to become the human beings intended by God. Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: Anna Dee To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 1:06 AM Subject: Re: [unitedinterfaithministers] Smiles and thanks Well said...as a Cristo-pagan..or C/wiccan...of Catholic persuasion..I am so pleased NOT to be living in a country so quick to condemn ALL because of the few...not that we are immune here in NZ...just more people showing better judgement...(for now) I realise that this was but an example of your spirituality...but it sits REAL well with me... Rev. Steadman is the "devil incarnate...or Satan"..at present on another (former) Listing...leading naive people into his DARK REALM....according to some... Actually the good REV..is a truly decent human being..who strives to understand all paths, or respect even where he disagrees...if he HAS a problem..it is that he is TOO big hearted to be in any set "religious" square...which makes him an automatic target for those with tunnel vision..and a threat to those who choose to sit inside these boxes... He is a seeker and a doer and a joy to share with here.. BB Anna --- woogiedad <woogiedad@netzero.net> wrote: --------------------------------- Hello and Merry Meet to all, First of all, thanks for the wonderful welcomes. Honestly, there are some Groups out there that are nowhere near as active or interesting. http://search.yahoo.com.au - Yahoo! Search - Looking for more? Try the new Yahoo! Search Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 4 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:11:56 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Re: Smiles and thanks Welcome back, Lord Dragon! Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: Earl Gregory To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 10:03 PM Subject: Re: [unitedinterfaithministers] Smiles and thanks Greetings All, Well, I'm finally back online gain after a bit of much needed rest and recoup time from the Gathering this past weekend. Hey Lugh.......I didn't see you there, ('course I wouldn't know for sure since I have no idea what you look like), and I don't recall hearing anyone mention you being there. I have to admit, I was running around like a chicken with my head cut off most of the time and could have been somewhat hard to pin down. Anyway, sorry to have missed you. I was looking forward to meeting you. Badger Ravenmoon.....needless to say I missed the origins of this threadline but it sounds like it may have been interesting. Okay, I'm gone for now, just wanted to let you all know you can run and hide again.....he's baaaaaaa'aaakkkk................ :-) Maybe I'll get caught up relatively soon and can get back in the swing of things. I would like to say that I had some pretty good things to say about those of you on this list when I had an opportunity to get into conversations about it. You folks take care...... Lord Dragon HP NSC ----- Original Message ----- From: "woogiedad" <woogiedad@netzero.net> To: <unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com> Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: [unitedinterfaithministers] Smiles and thanks > Hello and Merry Meet to all, > > First of all, thanks for the wonderful welcomes. Honestly, there are some > Groups out there that are nowhere near as active or interesting. > Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 5 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:30:36 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Re: Smiles and thanks I am the inventor of the newest denomination in Christendom, Rev. Ravenmoon, who had the audacity to believe that Jesus Christ was the Son of God, not God, and came to witness to the entire world, not just those who profess His name. My faith was validated (by man) through the University of California and will be included in the upcoming eighth editions of the Encyclopedia of American Religions and the Encyclopedia of World Religions. The eBook, which was the seed for this new faith, is available at the church web site (http://interfaithchristian.org) free of charge in PDF (Adobe Acrobat) and is also available from the national libraries of Russia and Great Britain in either Microsoft Word or PDF. I have been preaching for more than 20 years that there are those who are Christian/Wicca, Christian/Pagan, Christian/Buddha, Christian/Muslim, etc., differing only because of historical and societal mores, yet following that which is pleasing to God. To date, during the past year, I have ordained more than 65 Ministers into this faith, representing many states and countries. And, in addition, have more than 16 brick and mortar Churches in Nigeria, Africa. I keep my records in Africa separate from the rest of the world, and at present, have more than 30 ordained Ministers there. Word has just reached me that there are now those contemplating creating the very first Christian/Muslim Mosque in the country of Burkinafasa, in West Africa, all under this new faith's banner. And, my Apostle there, Apostle Dr. Inneh, has been given the use of a school by the local Monarchy to begin training Missionaries to go into the northern part of Nigeria where there is so much bloodshed between Muslims and (what they call "French" or "White") Christians (mainstream). On top of that, we have affiliated with our Ministry a whole cadre of Shamans who have offices in the same building as does the Church and have cross-practicing ceremonies. Our Shamans turn away from doing evil, placing curses on people, but continue in the time honored traditions of healing and giving protective prayers, all the while with Christ and His teachings in the background. You can get a better idea of the Africa movement by visiting http://www.angelfire.com/realm2/steadman/NigeriaChurch.htm. Any and all help is appreciated by them, as the average income over there is less than $900 a year, and most live on dirt floors that have been plastered over. A small $20 donation to them is like getting an extra week's salary! Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: woogiedad To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Monday, August 11, 2003 8:52 PM Subject: [unitedinterfaithministers] Smiles and thanks Hello and Merry Meet to all, First of all, thanks for the wonderful welcomes. Honestly, there are some Groups out there that are nowhere near as active or interesting. By way of religious tolerance, I am a staunch proponent, seeing as I am what is referred to in a most politic manner as "a religious minority." The reason why I bring this up is because I have been finding more and more cause to believe that Americans are finding more and more reasons to demand religious hegemony in their leaders and in the social fabric. One of the things I have taken to citing is the rabid nature with which people jumped on the Catholic Church over the sex abuse scandals (Boston aside), and the sheer volume of ink spilled over the appointment of the homosexual (I refuse to say gay) Episcopal Bishop. What I mean is, in the case of the Catholic Church, less than 1% of the priests/brothers in the U.S. were guilty of any wrong doing, yet ALL were painted with the same brush. Why? Because religious hegemony has become the order of the day. If one Catholic priest fondled a boy, then because they are all the same, they are all guilty of this crime. With regard to the new Bishop, my question is simple: if having a homosexual bishop is so bad, why is having a homosexual priest/minister any better? My contention is that the same crowd that is raising holy mayhem over the appointment are also the same people who are silent on anti-homosexual crimes. Just to make sure my message is lucid here, because I am WELL-KNOWN to lose my message in my words, I have concerns over so many people getting so bent over the so called homosexual agenda that they are willing to paint an entire religion with the wrong brush, and are willing to condemn a man for his lifestyle ONL:Y when he gets promoted to a position of authority. And, one question here: I am wondering what Rev. Steadmen meant when he said: "Just be prepared for those, like myself, who might witness to you in order to make you aware of other paths which are different and inclusive of the one you have already chosen." With Perfect Love and Brightest Blessings, Rev. Badger Ravenmoon Let me stand on Erin's Emerald Shores. Let the wild winds of Alba blow, and fill me with their Lore. Let the Sacred Wells of Cymru flow, and cleanse my spirit. You Call Me Home. -Emerald Rose Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 6 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 10:36:33 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Re: Re: Smiles and thanks I would add only one other "item" to the mix, Rev. Ruddick, and that would be the Conservative Christians' view that Catholics are now nothing more than a cult, and not true Christians. Since the early 60's, and as has been noted by the present Pope in public on several occassions, the Church no longer believes that only those who belong to the Church will go to Heaven. In fact, they now openly advocate that there will be many in Heaven who do not know the Christ, nor are members of His Church, because God uses many in the creation of His Kingdom on earth. My reading of the Scriptures concurs with this idea. So, there is a microscope focused on the Catholic Church by the religious Right and they will use anything to destroy that faith and its position within the community. Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: Thomas Ruddick To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 8:54 AM Subject: [unitedinterfaithministers] Re: Smiles and thanks --- In unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com, "woogiedad" <woogiedad@n...> wrote: > Hello and Merry Meet to all, [edit] > By way of religious tolerance, I am a staunch proponent, seeing as I am what > is referred to in a most politic manner as "a religious minority." We're kindred spirits on that point-- > The > reason why I bring this up is because I have been finding more and more > cause to believe that Americans are finding more and more reasons to demand > religious hegemony in their leaders and in the social fabric. One of the > things I have taken to citing is the rabid nature with which people jumped > on the Catholic Church over the sex abuse scandals (Boston aside), [edit] What I mean is, in the case of the Catholic > Church, less than 1% of the priests/brothers in the U.S. were guilty of any > wrong doing, yet ALL were painted with the same brush. Why? Because > religious hegemony has become the order of the day. If one Catholic priest > fondled a boy, then because they are all the same, they are all guilty of > this crime. I'd like to explore this one, it's a point that I don't think I know about. On the one hand, many people who are tarring the Roman Catholics as a group are doing so out of simplistic, overly concrete thinking. The Roman Catholic church (or any group) is stereotyped by these people; all members are alike in all important ways. It's the same sort of thinking that's causing some people to think of Kobe Bryant with OJ Simpson (to use a non-religious comparison). The reasons you cited, I think, are true for others who are universally condemning the Roman church. Then there are others (like me) who look at the sex scandals (and are aware that they exist in the Church of the Brethren, the Southern Baptist Church, Hare Krishnas, Branch Dividians, and certainly among Islam clerics in nations where rape is considered a valid means of discipline) and who see a deep pattern. The Roman Catholic church (and the others I cited) are a strictly authoritarian hierarchy. The man at the top (and I use the word "man" descriptively--there are never women in positions of power in these groups) makes all the rules, and the people at the bottom are never supposed to question them or even try to suggest alternatives. The consequences, I think, of this sort of restrictive, top-down religion are predictable. I expect that every denomination that squelches independent thinking will wind up with many members of the clergy who take up the ministry not to serve the faithful and to glorify that which is good, but to exploit the absolute power of their position for personal selfishness. My condemnation of Roman Catholics is not strong nor universal, but the sheer number of cases of sexual abuse (thousands per year! in the USA alone) indicates that there was a very entrenched custom of "letting the priests play" in the leadership of the church. Note that many bishops made public statements that concentrated on scorching those who exposed the sexual abuse--why should anyone criticize someone who tried to stop such widespread pederasty? I feel bad for people like my mother-in-law; a thoroughly decent person who has been devoted to the Roman Catholic faith for all her life; now faced with the stunning realization that her support has gone, in part, to an organization that protected child molesters, and to cash payments and legal settlements that resulted from the iniquity. I know that, if I were in her position, I would angrily reject the institution as a whole and regret having given anything to them. In her case, I think there's a different resolution. Summing up--since I can get my meaning lost in my words I think just as well as you say that you can :-) --I think it is fair to paint the entire Roman Catholic hierarchy as complicit in this evil. Though I'd insist that many individual priests and bishops and nuns are innocent of personal wrongdoing, I can see that any institution that promotes absolute power and authority will inevitably support the abuse of the subordinates. This is true of sports teams (consider the number of coaches who are convicted of sexual contact with players)--and the military (tailhook, air force academy, etc.)--and churches. T R Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 7 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:04:54 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Does Anyone Have Any Of His Papers? The Wichita Eagle, Aug. 12, 2003 http://www.kansas.com/ BY BECCY TANNER, The Wichita Eagle Half a century ago, L. Ron Hubbard produced some of his earliest writings on Dianetics in Wichita. Now the Church of Scientology, which Hubbard founded, is seeking those papers. Church officials, who are offering a $5,000 reward, hope they might be tucked away in a Wichita attic or basement. Philip McComish, manager and partner of Watermark West-Rare Books, said he wasn't surprised to see an ad in Monday's Wichita Eagle asking about the papers. "When I first opened the rare books shop in the 1980s, I'd get a call about once a month wanting to know if I had any Scientology letters or documents," he said. McComish said he has never come across any. "I think these documents are probably gone," he said. "They were probably piles of 8 ½-by-11-inch papers sitting in boxes in someone's attic. The house changed hands a couple of times and the boxes got landfilled." Church of Scientology officials were unavailable Monday for comment. Hubbard died in 1986. The ad in Monday's paper said that Hubbard, the author of "Dianetics: The Modern Science of Mental Health," lived at 910 N. Yale in 1951 and 1952. While in Wichita, he gave more than 140 lectures at the Hubbard Dianetics Foundation and wrote several books on Dianetics. A search on Hubbard through the Eagle's archives indicate the Dianetics Foundation was located at 211 W. Douglas, now the northwest corner of the Century II property. The Hubbard College was on Broadway. While in Wichita, Hubbard trained people from across the nation on the subject of Dianetics. In one speech Hubbard gave Feb. 6, 1952, at the Arcadia Theatre -- now on file at Wichita State University's special collections -- he told the audience: "I wish to announce tonight what may be the successful accomplishment of the knowledge and skills necessary to alter the basic nature of man." In the speech, Hubbard said, "Dianetics is the field of knowledge which pertains to the treatment of the human mind." An Eagle story in March 1995 indicated that by 1952, Hubbard was seeking to leave Wichita. His second marriage had ended in divorce, and his company had gone bankrupt. When he left in March 1952, Hubbard left instructions with his housekeeper to ship his personal papers and manuscripts to Phoenix. For some reason, those items never arrived. Because of the popularity of his books on Dianetics, the Church of Scientology was soon born. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 8 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:06:00 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: If It Happened, It Happened BBC, Aug. 12, 2003 http://news.bbc.co.uk/ A leading Jewish group has condemned Mel Gibson's controversial film about Christ, saying it could fuel anti-Semitism. The Anti-Defamation League is the latest group to speak out against The Passion, Gibson's depiction of Jesus' crucifixion and events leading up to it, saying it was "dangerous". In a statement, the group said the film showed Jewish authorities and the Jewish mob as being responsible for the decision to crucify Jesus. Gibson's spokesman, however, said there was no suggestion of the film being anti-Semitic. The film has also been criticised by Catholic bishops, who complained it was anti-Catholic as well as anti-Semitic. The Anti-Defamation League said the movie had been seen by Rabbi Eugene Korn, its director of inter-faith affairs. He said it contained "many dangerous teachings" that Christians and Jews had worked to counter. He hoped that Gibson and his film production company would "consider modifying" the movie. The group's national director, Abraham Foxman, added: "We are deeply concerned that the film, if released in its present form, will fuel the hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism that many responsible churches have worked hard to repudiate." But Gibson's publicist Alan Nierob said: "No one associated with this film has any interest in fuelling hatred, bigotry and anti-Semitism. "In fact, Mel's interest is just the opposite as he has stated previously that this film is about love, hope, faith and forgiveness." Gibson is director of The Passion, which stars The Thin Red Line's Jim Caviezel as Christ and Monica Bellucci as Mary Magdalene. It features Latin and Aramaic dialogue and no English subtitles. Earlier, Gibson himself said he believed the movie would "inspire not offend". [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 9 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:07:09 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Yoga And Golf Associated Press, Aug. 10, 2003 http://www.usatoday.com/ By Mike Snider, USA TODAY Golfers will try anything if they think it will help their game. Even if it requires maneuvering their bodies into exotic poses called cobra, pigeon, locust and alligator twist. So it was that wisecracking CBS golf announcer and senior tour pro Gary McCord found himself, along with some of his golf buddies, in Katherine Roberts' yoga studio in Scottsdale, Ariz., two years ago. "We were these semi-old guys, and we were trying to get into these contorted positions. It was quite fascinating," says McCord, 55. The reason: Yoga, he says, is "relatively simple, and all of us baby boomers need to get a little flexible so we can go out and play golf without jacking our back around." Now, in addition to weightlifting and cardiovascular workouts in his home gym, McCord uses stretching cords and yoga on his rigorous travel schedule. The number of Roberts' yoga pupils is likely to increase. She's hosting a show called Yoga for Golfers on The Golf Channel; it premieres Aug. 23 at 11 a.m. ET/8 a.m. PT. Roberts also filmed one-minute yoga breaks the network plans to run regularly, along with commercials during other programming. She just joined Golf magazine's fitness panel, and some of her recommended yoga stretches appear in this month's issue. She also has a Yoga for Golfers book due next spring from McGraw-Hill. Is it just luck or coincidence that these two big breaks would come at the same time for this 40-year-old yoga instructor who markets her own Yoga for Golfers DVDs and videotapes on the Web? Roberts says she doesn't think so. She sees a growing interest and acceptance of yoga, especially among athletes. The numbers support her. More than 15 million people now practice yoga in the USA, an increase of 28.5% over 2002, according to a Harris poll for Yoga Journal magazine. Another 35 million said they plan to try yoga during the coming year. Currently, more than three of four yoga practitioners are women. Yoga, however, has a particular attraction for golfers. David Duval talked about his reliance on yoga last year in Golf magazine. PGA Tour yoga practitioners range from Ty Tryon, 19, to J. L. Lewis, 43, and on the women's tour, top golfers Annika Sorenstam and Se Ri Pak include it in their regimen. A golfer since she was 15, Roberts connected with yoga by chance. Eight years ago, she played in a foursome with a woman who had a handicap of 5 or 6 - impressive to someone with a 24 handicap. "She was a yoga teacher who was originally a marathon runner and was very much into golf," Roberts says. "She got into yoga because she had so much pain from running so much and she got such benefits for her golf game that she became a yoga teacher. I thought if it helped her game that much I would start taking yoga with her." As she continued to evolve in her yoga training, Roberts, who already was a fitness trainer at gyms and corporations, became an instructor herself. "My passion in life has been fitness," Roberts says. Then five years ago, as interest in golf grew - thanks partly to the exploits of Tiger Woods - Roberts began developing a yoga regimen specifically for golfers. "I looked at the biomechanics of a golf swing and selected from the thousands of yoga poses those that specifically address the golf game and golfers' needs." Her training is in Ashtanga yoga, an extremely physical form of yoga that emphasizes strength along with flexibility - a perfect combination for golfers. The prospect of becoming more flexible is what usually draws golfers to yoga. Yoga is an exercise that uses poses and stretches that can improve flexibility, strength and balance. Properly practiced, yoga breathing also can be calming. The flexibility aspect is what drew McCord to contact Roberts after reading an article about her in a local newspaper. McCord plays the Champions Tour (for golfers 50 and over) part time and works full time as an announcer at PGA Tour events broadcast by CBS. "I'm on the road constantly, so a lot of (conditioning) has got to be done in the hotel room," says McCord, who recommended Roberts to a host and producer on The Golf Channel. "It keeps me looser and keeps me more flexible." Golf Channel senior producer Jay Kossoff says the Yoga for Golfers show is meant to inform viewers about the benefits of yoga. "(Roberts') drills and routines teach us all a little about why yoga can energize the golf game and the golf swing," he says. "A lot of our viewers watch The Golf Channel with a club in hand. When they watch the show, they can literally get up and practice a yoga drill." Beyond the benefits of flexibility and strength, yoga also can enhance a player's mental game. "Yoga really is a way to quiet the mind," Roberts says. "They learn how the practice of breathing in yoga will help them to quiet their mind." Adds Golf magazine senior editor Tara Gravel: "You can use it to calm your nerves. Who isn't looking for a way to calm down on the course and focus a little better?" Along with weight training, yoga has become a complementary fitness factor for golfers, Gravel says. She hopes to develop the magazine's fitness panel into a monthly feature. Roberts "is really at the forefront of this whole movement." [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 10 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:28:50 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: No More Lost Pages I just wanted everyone to know that Rev. Dr. John Long (http://echosofthepast.net/whitedoveministries.html) has just donated (got it in the mail, today) a 120MB Parrallel Port Disk Drive, by Imation, complete with all instruction manuals, to the Church. It will allow me to copy all the Church Documents on one disk so I never have to face loosing information from the main Church site again. You can personally reach Rev. Dr. Long at tobor97@yahoo.com. This is a great sacrifice on his part as he has been having financial problems of his own, but wanted to give something to the Ministry. Bless you, Rev. Dr. Long, for your gift. Rev. Steadman [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 11 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:13:04 -0400 From: Sunny Simmons Steincamp <amarisse@amarisse.net> Subject: Flesh and Spirit At 10:11 AM 8/12/2003 -0400, Ernest A. Steadman wrote: >Thank you, Rev. Dee, for those kind words. Guess we are all targets of >those who follow the "flesh" and not the Spirit. We get it from >sanctimonious flesh seekers and evil flesh seekers with equal ferocity. You know, this brings up a point to which I have given a lot of thought. In my view of life, while there is a differentiation of sorts between 'flesh' and 'Spirit' in the human race, it seems to me that where we start getting into trouble is the place at which we lose our sense of balance. Now, granted, balance is an extremely important concept to me; it's a basic tenet of the responsible life, in my cosmology. And it's not echoed in many mainstream religions, most of whom preach the baseness of the flesh, and that we should focus solely on Spirit. About the only admonition I've heard that even hints at balance between the two is an admission that the body should be a 'temple' of the Holy Spirit. I differ with many people in this regard, I suppose, because I don't see that most of our troubles come from sins of the body. Some do, of course... but other than sexual abuse (which, by the way, studies have shown to be no more commonplace among the Catholic priesthood than the national average in the U.S.) and perhaps a few others, it's my position that the 'sins' that manifest in the flesh (as most eventually do) are far more related to sins of the Spirit... power, greed, envy, jealousy, anger, bitterness... these are far more likely to cause someone to defile their bodies than plain old animal lust. Some would argue, I imagine, that the soul and spirit are not the same thing, and that these sins, while in the mind of a person, are not truly part of their Spirit. I say, it's a person's Spirit, separated from or denied acknowledgement of its innate Divinity, that tries to reclaim the perfection of that state, and this is manifested through the soul (thinking part of a person) and into the body. When someone's Spirit is undervalued, his or her soul is going to yearn and reach and try to fill that need... I've heard it described in Christian circles as a 'God-shaped vacuum.' When people are taught that their bodies are merely chains binding them to sinfulness and that (because of their flesh) they are ever separated from God/dess, their subconscious (soul, spirit, etc) is denied its true expression of that divinity. Therefore, lack of perfect love begets jealousy... lack of perfect provision begets greed... lack of a sense of the divine/eternal begets power-games (which has a lot of nasty grandchildren)... lack of perfect trust begets selfishness, bitterness, anger... I could probably sit down and think this little analogy through better (and probably will) but hopefully you get my point. It's only when we are able to balance the reality of our physical existence with the reality of our Spiritual nature that we can truly express ourselves as a "whole." In my opinion, viewing sex, for instance, as a necessary evil, full of pitfalls and temptations that will lead a person to ruin, instead of recognizing the power and sanctity of our sexuality, when coupled with a mindset of need, neglect, lack of love, deprivation, insecurity, etc. can be horribly transmutated into the most heinous and violating acts towards others... Similar lapses in wholeness of the spirit can cause substance abuse, as the person seeks refuge, release, escape, etc. from a world in which they find no validation for their existence. This is a topic, of course, about which I could probably write an entire book and not cover thoroughly, but I'm always interested in other people's viewpoints. If this wasn't long winded enough for you *grin* I wrote an article for The Seeker Journal a few months back that talks a bit about this... it's archived on my site at http://www.amarisse.net/paganhood/ if you're interested. Thanks for getting my mental wheels turning again, Rev. Steadman. My editor has been asking for a follow-up article, and I might just have the beginning of it now! Hugs, Sunny ~*~*~*~*~*~ NAMASTE!~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Visit me on the Web! http://www.amarisse.net amarisse@amarisse.net AIM: AmarisseSun ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 12 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 11:47:31 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Some Really Heavy Grey Matter Any of you who have clicked onto my personal site and have read some of the ordainments I have, may have noticed I am also ordained by the Holistic Church of Thought "Science", Good News and the Mind of Christ. It is a mouthful, I know, but the creator of that Ministry is into some very, very HEAVY thinking. I do not contribute to his email group, simply because I am so busy with this Church work, but is any of you would like a taste of EXTREMELY HIGH LEVELS OF THOUGHT, I would recommend you join his email group to read some of the fantastic postings he creates on a myriad of topics. Within the next week, or so, he is developing a paper on Dissociative Disorder (Identify or Personality Disorder) and it will be highly controversial in the Psychiatric community. If you want to read "cutting-edge" philosophy backed by an almost super-human intelligence first hand, I recommend you drop by http://groups.yahoo.com/group/TSSTAA_drrgr. Or, drop by http://www.geocities.com/mllcatspa/index.html and take a gander at the Multi Literacy Literary College, Institute of Thought & Independent Scholars & Ministers (Corporation founded in 1999) and maybe become ordained through them as well. You don't get anymore independent than most of us in this Ministry, anyway. Rev. Dr. Rivera is not affiliated with this Church, but neither are several others I make available to our membership, simply because of the worthwhile, valid things they have to offer. Rev. Steadman [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 13 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:11:43 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Re: Flesh and Spirit And excellent, well thought out discourse, Rev. Steincamp, but it is predicated differently than my own understanding. When I speak of the "flesh", I am referring to the ID, the evolved ID, that which was given to us by reason of our birth and the error which occured during the creation of the first human beings, the melding of the Godseed with that of evolution through Cain and Seth. All we are born with is the "flesh". No child desires to share with any other child. They are born with a DNA that demands survival and as they grow, so too does this understanding of theirs when survival is substituted with wants and desires. These are all things of the flesh. The Holy Spirit is that which came from the Godseed, a device which allows us to know the will of the Creator in all things, and was revealed by the Christ in His Ministry. The "flesh" has to have rules and regulations, the Spirit does not. The term "conscience" readily comes to mind in describing this circumstance. Do we follow our conscience in our dealings with others? The Spirit also has the capacity to know that which is unknown to the flesh. The terms "intuition", "second sight", among others come to mind in describing this aspect of the Godseed. None of this will be acknowledged by a Mainstream Christian because it would mean that they are not saved. Their need for doctrine, dogma, rules and regulations all indicate a less than human being. I do not have to be told not to lie, or steal, or murder, or fornicate, as these things just do not enter my mind, they are that abhorant to me. And, why the Christ said that as you "think" a thing, you have done it. I believe that a lot of what you have written may be saying the same thing, but (SURPRISE!) from a secular viewpoint. You have intermingled terminologies from your particular faith, but the premise is strickly secular, scientific, and not a bad thing. I go in the opposite direction and use the scientific to reaffirm and prove the religious aspect of my faith. The rise in Pagan, New Age and Wicca may well be the Spirit guiding many into its truth of our condition. And, again, why I say that if a Wicca, or a Buddhist, or a Muslim, or a Pagan does that which is pleasing to God through the Holy Spirit, they have followed the Christ in every aspect, whether they know it or not. Your take on the subject would be more accepted than mine, but I think they are very much akin in substance. I pray you great success and distribution of your thoughts on this matter, for the more who read your words, the more there will be people that much closer to hearing and understanding the Spirit within. Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: Sunny Simmons Steincamp To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 11:13 AM Subject: [unitedinterfaithministers] Flesh and Spirit At 10:11 AM 8/12/2003 -0400, Ernest A. Steadman wrote: Thank you, Rev. Dee, for those kind words. Guess we are all targets of those who follow the "flesh" and not the Spirit. We get it from sanctimonious flesh seekers and evil flesh seekers with equal ferocity. You know, this brings up a point to which I have given a lot of thought. In my view of life, while there is a differentiation of sorts between 'flesh' and 'Spirit' in the human race, it seems to me that where we start getting into trouble is the place at which we lose our sense of balance. Now, granted, balance is an extremely important concept to me; it's a basic tenet of the responsible life, in my cosmology. And it's not echoed in many mainstream religions, most of whom preach the baseness of the flesh, and that we should focus solely on Spirit. About the only admonition I've heard that even hints at balance between the two is an admission that the body should be a 'temple' of the Holy Spirit. I differ with many people in this regard, I suppose, because I don't see that most of our troubles come from sins of the body. Some do, of course... but other than sexual abuse (which, by the way, studies have shown to be no more commonplace among the Catholic priesthood than the national average in the U.S.) and perhaps a few others, it's my position that the 'sins' that manifest in the flesh (as most eventually do) are far more related to sins of the Spirit... power, greed, envy, jealousy, anger, bitterness... these are far more likely to cause someone to defile their bodies than plain old animal lust. Some would argue, I imagine, that the soul and spirit are not the same thing, and that these sins, while in the mind of a person, are not truly part of their Spirit. I say, it's a person's Spirit, separated from or denied acknowledgement of its innate Divinity, that tries to reclaim the perfection of that state, and this is manifested through the soul (thinking part of a person) and into the body. When someone's Spirit is undervalued, his or her soul is going to yearn and reach and try to fill that need... I've heard it described in Christian circles as a 'God-shaped vacuum.' When people are taught that their bodies are merely chains binding them to sinfulness and that (because of their flesh) they are ever separated from God/dess, their subconscious (soul, spirit, etc) is denied its true expression of that divinity. Therefore, lack of perfect love begets jealousy... lack of perfect provision begets greed... lack of a sense of the divine/eternal begets power-games (which has a lot of nasty grandchildren)... lack of perfect trust begets selfishness, bitterness, anger... I could probably sit down and think this little analogy through better (and probably will) but hopefully you get my point. It's only when we are able to balance the reality of our physical existence with the reality of our Spiritual nature that we can truly express ourselves as a "whole." In my opinion, viewing sex, for instance, as a necessary evil, full of pitfalls and temptations that will lead a person to ruin, instead of recognizing the power and sanctity of our sexuality, when coupled with a mindset of need, neglect, lack of love, deprivation, insecurity, etc. can be horribly transmutated into the most heinous and violating acts towards others... Similar lapses in wholeness of the spirit can cause substance abuse, as the person seeks refuge, release, escape, etc. from a world in which they find no validation for their existence. This is a topic, of course, about which I could probably write an entire book and not cover thoroughly, but I'm always interested in other people's viewpoints. If this wasn't long winded enough for you *grin* I wrote an article for The Seeker Journal a few months back that talks a bit about this... it's archived on my site at http://www.amarisse.net/paganhood/ if you're interested. Thanks for getting my mental wheels turning again, Rev. Steadman. My editor has been asking for a follow-up article, and I might just have the beginning of it now! Hugs, Sunny ~*~*~*~*~*~ NAMASTE!~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Visit me on the Web! http://www.amarisse.net amarisse@amarisse.net AIM: AmarisseSun ~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~ Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 14 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 14:20:26 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Work Hiatus If I seem suspicously absent for the next week or two on these email Forums, it is not because I am out-of-pocket to those of you who need advise (contact me via my personal email steadman2002@charter.net) but am literally snowed under with work for the African Churches. I need to finish the rewrite of Apostle Dr. Inneh's book on witchcraft (African style) and I am in the middle of reworking all their Certificates. Still haven't replaced the ones lost when my computer fried the last time, and we are going over all our Ordained Ministers to see who is still in the fold, working, and those who are not, so I can begin copying laminated I.D.'s and Certificates for them as I have done for other members not in the African Church. So, there may be days when I won't even check the group emails and it may be a couple weeks before getting all the posts to the Church site as I would like to. Rev. Steadman [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 15 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 12:17:23 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: No More Lost Pages Hoooray. And many blessing sto all "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> wrote:I just wanted everyone to know that Rev. Dr. John Long (http://echosofthepast.net/whitedoveministries.html) has just donated (got it in the mail, today) a 120MB Parrallel Port Disk Drive, by Imation, complete with all instruction manuals, to the Church. It will allow me to copy all the Church Documents on one disk so I never have to face loosing information from the main Church site again. You can personally reach Rev. Dr. Long at tobor97@yahoo.com. This is a great sacrifice on his part as he has been having financial problems of his own, but wanted to give something to the Ministry. Bless you, Rev. Dr. Long, for your gift. Rev. Steadman Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 16 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 15:21:13 -0400 From: "Jake Harmon" <jakeharmon@charter.net> Subject: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus Has anyone eles recieved the bible study from Rev Pennington yet.I had to open mine with word pad.Has anyone else had trouble opening theirs. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest A. Steadman To: thechurchofinterfaithchristians@yahoogroups.com Cc: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus If I seem suspicously absent for the next week or two on these email Forums, it is not because I am out-of-pocket to those of you who need advise (contact me via my personal email steadman2002@charter.net) but am literally snowed under with work for the African Churches. I need to finish the rewrite of Apostle Dr. Inneh's book on witchcraft (African style) and I am in the middle of reworking all their Certificates. Still haven't replaced the ones lost when my computer fried the last time, and we are going over all our Ordained Ministers to see who is still in the fold, working, and those who are not, so I can begin copying laminated I.D.'s and Certificates for them as I have done for other members not in the African Church. So, there may be days when I won't even check the group emails and it may be a couple weeks before getting all the posts to the Church site as I would like to. Rev. Steadman Yahoo! Groups Sponsor To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: thechurchofinterfaithchristians-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 17 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 13:06:09 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus What Bible Study???????? I seem to be missing mail. Jake Harmon <jakeharmon@charter.net> wrote:Has anyone eles recieved the bible study from Rev Pennington yet.I had to open mine with word pad.Has anyone else had trouble opening theirs. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest A. Steadman To: thechurchofinterfaithchristians@yahoogroups.com Cc: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus If I seem suspicously absent for the next week or two on these email Forums, it is not because I am out-of-pocket to those of you who need advise (contact me via my personal email steadman2002@charter.net) but am literally snowed under with work for the African Churches. I need to finish the rewrite of Apostle Dr. Inneh's book on witchcraft (African style) and I am in the middle of reworking all their Certificates. Still haven't replaced the ones lost when my computer fried the last time, and we are going over all our Ordained Ministers to see who is still in the fold, working, and those who are not, so I can begin copying laminated I.D.'s and Certificates for them as I have done for other members not in the African Church. So, there may be days when I won't even check the group emails and it may be a couple weeks before getting all the posts to the Church site as I would like to. Rev. Steadman To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: thechurchofinterfaithchristians-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 Yahoo! Groups SponsorADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 18 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:48:32 -0400 From: "Jake Harmon" <jakeharmon@charter.net> Subject: Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus Rev. Pennington has a bible study on disk.For a dollar and a stamped return Envolope he will send you one.That is a true bargain to me. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah McCoy To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [unitedinterfaithministers] Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus What Bible Study???????? I seem to be missing mail. Jake Harmon <jakeharmon@charter.net> wrote: Has anyone eles recieved the bible study from Rev Pennington yet.I had to open mine with word pad.Has anyone else had trouble opening theirs. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest A. Steadman To: thechurchofinterfaithchristians@yahoogroups.com Cc: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus If I seem suspicously absent for the next week or two on these email Forums, it is not because I am out-of-pocket to those of you who need advise (contact me via my personal email steadman2002@charter.net) but am literally snowed under with work for the African Churches. I need to finish the rewrite of Apostle Dr. Inneh's book on witchcraft (African style) and I am in the middle of reworking all their Certificates. Still haven't replaced the ones lost when my computer fried the last time, and we are going over all our Ordained Ministers to see who is still in the fold, working, and those who are not, so I can begin copying laminated I.D.'s and Certificates for them as I have done for other members not in the African Church. So, there may be days when I won't even check the group emails and it may be a couple weeks before getting all the posts to the Church site as I would like to. Rev. Steadman To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: thechurchofinterfaithchristians-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! Groups Sponsor ADVERTISEMENT To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. [This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 19 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:58:26 -0400 From: "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> Subject: Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus Write to Rev. Dr. Pennington, Rev. Dr. McCoy, at 212 North Raleigh Farms Road, Youngsville, NC 27596 and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope along with a dollar bill and he will send you a 10 lesson Bible Study on a floppy. Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah McCoy To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [unitedinterfaithministers] Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus What Bible Study???????? I seem to be missing mail. Jake Harmon <jakeharmon@charter.net> wrote: Has anyone eles recieved the bible study from Rev Pennington yet.I had to open mine with word pad.Has anyone else had trouble opening theirs. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest A. Steadman To: thechurchofinterfaithchristians@yahoogroups.com Cc: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus If I seem suspicously absent for the next week or two on these email Forums, it is not because I am out-of-pocket to those of you who need advise (contact me via my personal email steadman2002@charter.net) but am literally snowed under with work for the African Churches. I need to finish the rewrite of Apostle Dr. Inneh's book on witchcraft (African style) and I am in the middle of reworking all their Certificates. Still haven't replaced the ones lost when my computer fried the last time, and we are going over all our Ordained Ministers to see who is still in the fold, working, and those who are not, so I can begin copying laminated I.D.'s and Certificates for them as I have done for other members not in the African Church. 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[This message contained attachments] ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 20 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:56:29 -0400 (EDT) From: ReverendDoctor@webtv.net Subject: Re: No More Lost Pages A very nice gesture! "People may not remember exactly what you did, or what you said,...but they will always remember how you made them feel!" Rev. Mark C. Smith, Th.D, D.D. (Bro. Mark) Pastor/Administrator The Christian Internet Church & Ministry http://community-2.webtv.net/ReverendDoctor/ReachingOut ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________ Message: 21 Date: Tue, 12 Aug 2003 16:58:06 -0700 (PDT) From: Sarah McCoy <revsarah@sbcglobal.net> Subject: Re: Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus ok thanks "Ernest A. Steadman" <steadman2002@charter.net> wrote: Write to Rev. Dr. Pennington, Rev. Dr. McCoy, at 212 North Raleigh Farms Road, Youngsville, NC 27596 and include a self-addressed, stamped envelope along with a dollar bill and he will send you a 10 lesson Bible Study on a floppy. Rev. Steadman ----- Original Message ----- From: Sarah McCoy To: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 4:06 PM Subject: Re: [unitedinterfaithministers] Re: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus What Bible Study???????? I seem to be missing mail. Jake Harmon <jakeharmon@charter.net> wrote: Has anyone eles recieved the bible study from Rev Pennington yet.I had to open mine with word pad.Has anyone else had trouble opening theirs. CrossRoads Healing Ministries Of Wilmington,NC Pastor Jake Harmon http://www.geocities.com/pastorjakeharmon1946/CrossroadsFrontPage.html?1059878869830 ----- Original Message ----- From: Ernest A. Steadman To: thechurchofinterfaithchristians@yahoogroups.com Cc: unitedinterfaithministers@yahoogroups.com Sent: Tuesday, August 12, 2003 2:20 PM Subject: [thechurchofinterfaithchristians] Work Hiatus If I seem suspicously absent for the next week or two on these email Forums, it is not because I am out-of-pocket to those of you who need advise (contact me via my personal email steadman2002@charter.net) but am literally snowed under with work for the African Churches. I need to finish the rewrite of Apostle Dr. Inneh's book on witchcraft (African style) and I am in the middle of reworking all their Certificates. Still haven't replaced the ones lost when my computer fried the last time, and we are going over all our Ordained Ministers to see who is still in the fold, working, and those who are not, so I can begin copying laminated I.D.'s and Certificates for them as I have done for other members not in the African Church. So, there may be days when I won't even check the group emails and it may be a couple weeks before getting all the posts to the Church site as I would like to. Rev. Steadman To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: thechurchofinterfaithchristians-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.507 / Virus Database: 304 - Release Date: 8/4/03 To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. To unsubscribe from this group, send an email to: unitedinterfaithministers-unsubscribe@yahoogroups.com Your use of Yahoo! Groups is subject to the Yahoo! Terms of Service. Yahoo! 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August 13, 2003 ~ Joined the following "Thought Groop: Welcome! As Thought Scientists, we are dedicated to helping those who are seeking assistance in reaching their highest human potential. This has been demonstrated by men and women who have been guided in their mind and inner-person by the thoughts of the God who forms all the thoughts of humankind and all the thoughts used to establish Creation. This is undertaken for the purpose of building up the spiritual and material fabric of our being, and it is accomplished through the internalization of the writings of the past, present and future. Everyone and everything will be put to good use whether now or tomorrow. Therefore, do not wait for the intellectual emergence and renewal to happen to you. Although the intellectual emergence may be slow in coming and the intellectual renewal far off, it will happen and it will come. Be not counted as those who have not done this for themselves today while waiting for tomorrow. Say, as has been echoed throughout history, "All the days of my life I will wait until my change comes" and do as commanded by God, "Grow in knowledge until Christ forms within you." For the meaning of wait in this sense is to serve myself and others. Through men and women aflame and blazing with the power of thought life establishes itself with the dust of the stars on the earthly plane and in the heavenly realm. For we are the altar of the Creator where His Light burns as the reason of those whose minds are one with Him. ******************************************************* Edited by the Most Reverend Mother *********************************************

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Date: Wed, 13 Aug 2003 17:21:11 -0000 From: "Dr Ramon G Rivera, T.S., Ph.D." <docramon@wctel.net> To: rcraig5@cox.net Subject: Welcome We are honored by your interest in joining. We look forward to your ideas and concepts you may offer as posted. Welcome aboard and lets all reap from every bit of faith we all have to offer every time we each sow when we post the spiritual gift God has given to each and every one of us. For it is not only the thoughts of our faith that we post but His thoughts given to us that we post in order that we share in His glory when we do just that. Feel free to sow and reap all that grows in this Mindscape presently plowed and prepared for all manner of truths given to us from the Multi-Knowledge of God Himself. He is the King of all thoughts, concepts, theories, laws and principles, sciences, and no part of the imagination left out. Our viewpoint has been given to us by God himself whether we agree with it or not. When these viewpoints are encountered the expected is will you know it to be destructive or constructive towards your fellow kind. You see, only here on earth do we have the power to be destructive towards each other. However will you choose to be constructive? God expects us to be foremost constructive. For example, not even the most protective effects of the first amendment will protect the freedom of speech rights of an individual who yells "A bomb!" or "Fire!" in an airport or public place where the chaos causing injuries will injure people. We must have that kind of mentality to know the difference between constructive and destructive. The following is not only an example but a truth of the kinds of topics that may be posted. All your views are welcomed. Dr. Ramon G. Rivera, T.S., Ph.D. Corporate Executive Officer & Pres. Apostle of the Multi-knowledge of God and the Mind of Christ.

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Thanks Brother Bob! I knew you would come up with something of value. I appreciate it. I am caught in the contemporary hard spot on this. I realize that IF the church would be shut/persecuted/tortured to any great extent it would get off its duff and do the work God called upon us to do. They say that a censured church is a growing church. However, the persecution that is prevalent today is brought on by the very institutions that "call themselves by His name." Ironic. Over the centuries the Christian faith persisted in a growing body of believers and survived. After they began to build the great cathedrals in Europe and other places in the world the Spirit of God seemed to vanish and appeared in America. Today, our faith is again being challenged by the media and the filth inside the walls of the churches (catholic, or world wide body). It is exciting times in which we live! I find it most interesting and challenging to be alive is these improbable times. Yet! It is indeed times like these when we are likely to see Christ's return! 1. Check this one out Brother Bob: http://www.sandysworldonline.com/bless_you_my_friend.html ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html ----- Original Message ----- From: Robert Ray Haymaker Sr. To: Bob Craig Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 9:26 PM Subject: Re: Satan . . . Is it US? Brother Bob, What you are saying makes sense. But the United States dose seem to be Saran. All the ruling that those dim witted judges are making. All the evil that is destroying our seemingly CHRISTian churches, sure don't look like GOD is a part of this MESS. But CHRIST said upon this rock I will build MY church and the gates of hell shall not prevail. So in my mind the CHURCH is not a building nor is it any of the so call CHRISTian denominations. For all of these have been infiltrated by Satan. So I would say the CHURCH is the ones that believe in JESUS CHRIST and follow HIS teachings without changing a letter. The other things people believe to be the church in just a set of doctrines that will do nothing what so ever to save people from hell. Only the Blood of CHRIST will get you to Heaven and then only if you believe: and make an effort to do the will of GOD. GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: Bob Craig To: Undisclosed-Recipient:; Sent: Wednesday, August 13, 2003 4:10 PM Subject: Satan . . . Is it US? I was wondering if you would take a moment and proof-read this for me. I am EXCHANGING some ideas . . . :-) Appreciate you! Bob C URL: http://craigpages3.100megsfree5.com/sermons/ThatGreatSatan.html ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html

Issue 293 - June 25th, 2003 How to Create and Send HTML Email Self-Service Email-Marketing! FREE TEST DRIVE VerticalResponse makes it easy for anyone to create, send and track customer and prospect email campaigns in minutes for as little as fractions of a penny per email. Choose to use our templates or your own creative. No monthly minimums, just pay as you go. Includes FREE sign-up form, list hosting/management and reporting. Click Here Now How to Create and Send HTML Email By Herman Drost Until recently text-based email was the most popular way to communicate, however with the advent of html email you can now create and send beautiful graphics, create clickable links and use interactive forms. HTML email can have the same appearance as a web page. You can include your favorite photos, create colorful newsletters or charts for your friends or business associates. It's now often used as a valuable tool in email marketing campaigns. HTML email has now surpassed text-based email in popularity. Read this survey on email format preferences and and programs. http://www.wilsonweb.com/wmt8/email_format_preferences.htm Let's first point out the pros and cons of sending html email before we get into how to create it. Pros of using html email Visually appealing Able to include graphics, icons, clickable links, different fonts, interactive forms. Increased interactivity with your customers. Mostly used by advertisers, however more consumers are using html email as they switch to faster connections. Ads can be more effective in HTML Most of the popular email clients now support html email (ie Outlook Express, Outlook, Eudora, Netscape Communicator, Hotmail, Rocketmail, AOL, Yahoo, Web TV). Cons of using html email Slow loading due to downloading of graphics Takes up more space in your email client Not all computers support html email Users may not have the required bandwidth or may have download quotas set by their ISPs. Hackers can send viruses, trojan horses embedded in html email. Users may turn off the option to receive html email, or use filters to quarantine it. !!! INCREASE YOUR WEBSITE TRAFFIC, use WebPosition !!! Submitting alone is not enough. You now need to track and maintain your website's position in the Search Engines. Download a FREE trial version of WebPosition! Go to: http://www.addme.com/webposition.htm How to create a simple html email 1. Open your favorite html editor ie FrontPage, Dreamweaver (you can also use MS Word 97 or 2000 but it tends to bloat the code a little) to create your email. 2. Always use absolute URLS for your graphics (ie http://www.addme.com/images/addme.gif). 3. Graphics (ie images, icons, fancy fonts) must be stored on a web server to correctly appear in email software - you could save it as an attachment, however most folks will not open the attachment especially (and delete it) if it's from someone they don't know. 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<hr align="Center" width="100%" size="1" noshade> <br> <p> August 15, 2003 <br> <br> Source ~ BBN Radio <p><a href="http://bbnradio.org">BBN-Net News</a> <br>August 15, 2003 Volume 7, Number 33 <br> <br> <p> BBN-English <blockquote><blockquote> <p>We have a ministry among our military personnel. Here is an email from a soldier in the Middle East. "I need help. I've grown up in church all my life and now it seems like I'm slipping. I'm in the military and I know He has a plan for me. I've been in Kuwait and Iraq. Now I'm waiting to go home and it seems like NOW is when I'm the most unstable. He is tugging at my heartstrings and I'm trying to get right again. I was saved and then I let my surroundings and the people I work with get to me. I've been in Kuwait the longest out of anyone in my unit and I know He's got something for me to do out here. If God wants you to go through a wilderness, He'll make a way for you to go through it. I am such a mess. I know God loves me and wants me to do what's right in His eyes, but I'm just not strong enough. I used to be. I used to be the most Bible carrying person I knew, but my language has gotten to be something that came out of the Navy instead of the Army. He's kept me safe thus far and as the old song says His grace will take me home. I love the Lord, but I just wish that I could be a better Christian. Will you pray for me? Please?" <br> <br> <p> Of course, we are now ministering to him, one on one by email. <br> <br> <br> <br> <center><a href="http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html"><img src="http://rbchopper.bravepages.com/GIFBackgrounds/crest.gif" alt="Craig Home Index" border="0" align="none"></a></a></center> <br>

August 16, 2003; 9:38 PM Brother Bob, Don't know if you get these e-mails or not: but this one is interesting. The one on the 18th will no doubt also be interesting. What is your opinion ? ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Brother Pappy! I can't believe you brought this up . . . Well, I can, but I was doing some recollections this very day and you won't believe what I am gong to tell you. My Uncle Frank Fleming lived up on the hill side of the road in Love Joy, near Commodore, PA directly across the street from a (what we then called) a Holly Roller Church. Mom and Dad would sometiems take us there on our way home from church at Cookport (Baptist). I was baptized by Rev. Clayton Straw from that church. Any way, that church down across the road from my Uncle Frank's house was completely described by your experience at 13 years. They would hop from one piew to another and so forth as you aply described the good folk at the "Church of God." It was difficult for us not to get hesterical as we could see down into the church without them knowing we were observing them 'worship.' and 'pray-through,' etc. Around the same time, as I recall, we went to Indiana to hear some evangelist or whatever and I found myself as a teen at the alter and someone pounding me on the back telling me to pray through. The reason we were even at the service was that we had a teen quartet and I also played the sax. We were invited to be part of the song service. As I remember, I was pounded for about an hour or so. Mom and dad seemed embarrased with the whole ordeal. I never felt anything other than the results of being slapped on the back. That was unusual in its self in that mom and dad slapped me on the behind (6) when I needed it and that usually hurt. :-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ When I was about 13 I went to church with a friend and his family. It was the Church of God. They were a wild bunch of psychos. The woman preacher would bang on a tamborine and jump around screeching and they sait this was music. People would run up and down the asiles and wave their hands above their head yelling and screaming. Then end up at the alter and fall to the floor thrashing and mumbling for about 15 minutes. They called it being posessed by the spirit: and the last part they said was speaking in tongues. I called plain insanity. If they were posessed by a spirit: It sure was not the sort of spirit I would want to be anywhere near. The whole thing seemed to be without ryme or reason even to a 13 year old. I am sure GOD would not want this sort of nonsense to be assoiated with HIM. GOD Bless You and Yours !! Pappy !!! ----- Original Message ----- From: 1. prayermanager@liveprayer.com To: dailydevotional dailydevotional@lpls1.liveprayer.com Sent: Friday, August 15, 2003 11:49 PM Subject: daily devotional (Sat. 8-16-2003)Liveprayer.com If this devotional is a blessing to you, maybe you have a friend or family member that would like to start receiving this daily word. You can forward this to them, and they can use the following link to subscribe. www.liveprayer.com/signup.htm DAILY DEVOTIONAL SATURDAY AUGUST 16, 2003 ( 1 Corinthians 12 ) ***MAKE SURE YOU DON'T MISS THE DEVOTIONAL FOR MONDAY AUGUST 18TH! I will be sharing a special message on the "Battle Lines In The Church Are Being Drawn." The apostasy of the Episcopal Church is only the beginning, so don't miss this important message. ***Become a LIVEPRAYER.COM DAILY SPONSOR AT: http://www.liveprayer.com/liveprayerdailysponsor.html ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SPIRITUAL GIFTS: This has always been a delemma in the churches I served. As the writer has written, I have pastored and/or pereached in many churches in a number of denominations. The spiritual gifts quandrey is one of the more (political?) delemma's churches of the past 30 or more years have had to work through. In baptist churches, some were "spiritual," and some are not. United Methodist churches are about as dead as they come -- and they had their roots with John and Charles Westley. Then there is the Westlein Methodist such as located at Dixonville. I attended Bible School there in the summers (Mom made me attend Summer Bible School any where there was one going on. Was always glad when Autust came and school days would be around the corner. I recall a little church mission at (?) Arcadia (beyond Purchase Line and Hillsdaile) that Bob Leasure and myself went and held services every Sunday afternoon. That was back in the days when there was such a rant in Pittsburgh with some (lady?) can't remember, Catherine someone or another, had a temple or such. There was a little girl that came to know Christ at our little mission there (about 12 or so years old) and her eyes were corssed to the extreeme! Some folk, after they brought her forward at every one of our services for prayer, took her to this Cathrine (?) (Kolman?) for healing. The very next sunday her mother and her stood up in the service and testified as to how she was healed and her eyes were straight. As I look at the monitor these words are being placed upon her eyes were as crooked as they ever were but she in tears was telling us how much better she felt now that her eyes were healed by God. Now, friend -- that aint of God -- it is the devil working when people are so deceived as that. She never did admit or let on that she knew her eyes wern't healed. Amaizing. That was a good lesson for me as I entered the ministry. I knew to watch out for the deception of Satan. Satan has used every thing possible to try and coutch himself as a spirit of God, and uses all there is in human brain power to convince us that he is God. Remember in the Scripture where he tried to deceive and tempt Christ? Satan is at work today and he has been around much too long to not know his deceitful ways work better when he pretends or presents himself as of God, "Spiritual Gifts, Healing, -- Web-Sites that seem to offer something godly or spiritually special. I agree with much of what the writer of your E-mail has to say. But I am warry in that it could be that a crack in some folk's minds could be entered through what seems to be a innocent and harmless passage. Be careful, brother Pappy. When one is sick he or she is more open to the hopes that are prevailed through some very thin ice. I had a Brother in Christ, Bob Henry, an Air Force Sargent, that I became rather close to in Christ while we served near Istanbul, Turkey. He was discharged about six months before me and when I got out of the Navy he had accepted my folks invitation to stay with them until I got out. So, when our ship arrived at Norfolk, VA, Bob was there with my brother Ken and Dad. We both had plans to start a Quartet. He was so talented as a singer and preacher and we had worked with the Chaplain there in Karaumasell, Turkey Base. Things didn't work out for us so he returned back to his home in up-state East Pa. Five years ago he called -- found me on the internet. He had pancreatic cancer realy bad and just wanted to talk. After I got off the phone with him I told Glenda that I just had to go and see my brother in Christ, Bob Henry. She had that heart operation and wasn't able to go so I went drove the old 1973 F-100 with the full bed camper to see Bob, his wife and family. He also had found promises of healing through internet searching and was convinced that he was being healed. His wife and myself listened to him go on and on knowing that he was indeed slowly dying there as he spoke. Neather his wife, his daughters or myself could say a word. I had prayer with him days later and turned my old tired truck toward Virgina and returned home. Three months later my brother Bob passed on to a better reward. I know he was right with God . . . just a bit too hopeful for the human powers that are not . . . A tough thing to recall, my Brother Pappy . . . but, a deep lesson was steared in my directions . . . expect anything from God, but make sure it is of God. A troubeling thing I experienced in my several years of ministry is the infrequency of funerials I had to conduct/do/perform. I have been told my many that in the church I would be called to there were so many funerals and so many of the old folk were gone. While I served the churches as pastor there would seldom be a funeral (one church went 18 months without a death). This troubled me. Then after I would leave I would receive communications from dear friends we'd left behind telling of the many funerals they had after we left. I know I had nothing to do with it. I don't know why this seemed to be the case. It just happened. I did have a good sort of experience when I'd visit the sick and have prayer with them. It came across to me more of a "feeling their sickness" experience. Often I would come home quite exausted after visiting with meny sick in one day. I sometimes limited my visits, or should I say, alternated my visits so that I could pick up strength from one to the other. Yes, I used 'troubled' to describe my feeling about the matter . . . but, I gave it over to God and did not try and figure it out. I encouraged folk that would bring the subject up to look to God for their needs, spiritual and physical. We live in a world that is encoumpased with spirits. These spirits are most likely evil -- in most cases. They are also deceitful. God does speak in different ways in different times. One of the things talked about in the E- mail below here is how Christ promised that we would do greater things than they. Or, was it the Apostle Paul? No matter, I think Jesus implied the same thing. The greatest thing of all time is how many people across the whole world is being reached with the Gospel message of Salvation by Grace. I think this (my personal oppinion) is by far the greatest thing that has ever encoumpased the world. Even Lazarus, as you know, was raised from the dead --- but, he died again! When the resurrection of the Saints of God happen at his return there will be no more death, sickness or evil. It will ALL be gone, my brother! That will be the greatest thing I would point anyone to. To be frank, my old body can't take too many more years and I don't want anyone comming into the fray that will delay death in my case. If I can live a helthy useful life here on earth and not be a bother to my family I want to stay as long as the Lord sees fit. But, on the other hand, I kind of look forward to seeing my Savior face to face. There are some things I want to ask Him though, and I woun't let St. Peter get in my way at the gate! I'm going in, all 6'3 1/2" of me. ;-| If all that we believe and hold dear to our 'being' is to be accomplished at our entrance into Glory why would we want to suffer and languish in an old withered up body that is no longer useful? If, on the otherhand, there is, as some would say, NO GOD! Then, it won't make any difference -- we will be in the realm of 'no-where.' How rediculous that seems, not that I look back at it. How can anyone in their right mind, free from the influence of Satan's evil spirits, say that There is not God? How can anyone not in the nut house say such a thing. I don't think they reall mean what they say. But, if they do -- let them have at it. I look to a day when you and I and everyone we love will be together and good pals as we walk those streets of gold! I have to give it up for now. Wore completely to a frazzle. I am going to format this for you so that the bad spelling is corrected as best as possible and see if there are any evil spirits in my words. But, until then, I'll be your Cyber Buddy, and whenever then happens, we will walk and talk together in the presence of God. Bob C Spiritual gifts. This is by far one of the most controversial issues in the church today. One of the things that grieves the heart of God the most, is the division within His body. Perhaps, nothing has divided the Body of Christ more than the issue of spiritual gifts. The sad fact is, it is a lack of understanding of this issue that has caused this division. Those who worship in a Pentecostal or Charismatic style church, embrace this issue, often too much so. Those who worship in more mainline denominational style churches such as the United Methodist, Presbyterian, or Baptist, ignore this issue, often too much so. Like in most differences, the truth is usually somewhere in the middle, and the issue of spiritual gifts is no different. Let me first clear up some beliefs that are 100% incorrect. Many who do not embrace spiritual gifts take the position that they are not for this day, that at some point they stopped to exist. NOTHING could be farther from the truth. There is NO, ZERO, Biblical support for this. Jesus told his followers that they would do even GREATER things then He did. He healed people, raised the dead, fed the multitudes with a few loaves and fishes, among other miracles. Likewise, those who hold to the belief that those who do not operate in certain gifts are not saved, or spiritually immature, are just as wrong. The biggest issue in this area are those who claim that if you do not have the gift of tongues you do not have the Holy Spirit. 100% WRONG! The Bible CLEARLY says that EVERYONE who is saved, receives the gift of the Holy Spirit. It is the Promise Jesus spoke of. It is the Comforter. Being YIELDED to the Spirit of God that resides within you, is the issue. When you hear of people being baptized in the Holy Spirit, if they are saved, they already possess the Holy Spirit. What is actually happening is that they are YIELDING to the power of the Holy Spirit that is within them. THAT is something that each person must do every day to allow the power of the Holy Spirit to flow through their life. This hotly debated issue is morean issue of semantics than anything else. As for Spiritual Gifts. These are special gifts that God gives to His children at specific times, for very specific purposes. God does not do ANYTHING by accident. Likewise, you cannot just activate the Gifts of God like you turn on a light switch. The biggest abuse of this is in the area of healing. YES, God does use human instruments to heal people. I will say that 99% of his human instruments are DOCTORS! Can someone rent a 20,000 seat arena, have a 200 voice choir an orchestra majestically lead the crowd in 1 hour of praise and worship, at the height of this emotional experience spend 45 minutes taking an offering, then open the alter for people to come forward and be healed, and people are actually healed? Yes! But even in this kind of situation, it is God using the faith of the individual, in accordance with HIS plan, that brings about the healing. Never forget, in the Bible when Jesus healed someone, He said, "go, thy faith has made thee whole!" The point is you do not have to go to a big crusade, or be in the presence of a certain person to be healed. It is JESUS who heals, through our faith, and in accordance with God's ultimate plan. I have over a 100,000 praise reports from people that have sent in healing requests to Liveprayer over the last 47 months who have been touched by God. Was there something magical about the prayers they got from here? NO. But God did hear those prayers and used the faith of the person in accordance with His perfect plan to bring about their healing. All Bill Keller, or any other person can do is to pray with you, and challenge you to believe, and to put your faith in God. The same Jesus who healed in the Bible, is the same Jesus that heals today. The other gift that is greatly abused is that of the prophet. In the Old Testament, God often spoke through the prophet. Now that we have His Word, a prophet is someone who declares the oracles of God. A prophet is not a psychic, though God can give a prophet direction for a person or situation in advance. Most who call themselves prophets however, speak in lofty language, and much like the psychics, speak in generalities that can apply to almost ANY situation. I have always challenged ANYONE who wants to claim this gift to read what the Bible says about a prophet. The Biblical mandate for anyone claiming to be a prophet is that the FIRST time they are wrong, they are to be taken to the edge of the city and stoned to death. I wonder how many prophets and prophetesses there would be if this was their penalty for being wrong? The bottom line to this sadly divisive issue is that spiritual gifts DO EXIST. They are NOT a sign of spiritual superiority but special gifts that God gives to His children at specific times for VERY specific purposes. The fact is that EVERY believer has at least one gift, and no believer has ALL of the gifts. The Bible says we should desire the gifts of God so that we can better fulfill our purpose of serving Him. The purpose of this Devotional is not to get into a theological debate over this issue. I am not here for that purpose, and I refuse to allow myself to get entangled in that kind of exchange. I realize that there is much teaching on this issue, and possibly your church teaches things that might contradict what I have said. I will say this. One reason I rarely deal with this issue, is that like prophecy, people can get so focused on this one issue, that they forget the most important issue of all which is what Liveprayer is here to do. That is to help you translate your faith into your every day life and fulfill all that God intends for your life to be. I have preached in churches of every denomination and the one common bond in every church, no matter WHAT position they take on issues like Spiritual Gifts is that there are people hurting, and looking for encouragement and answers in their day to day life. I love you and care about you very much. I will be praying for you today, especially that you don't allow an issue like Spiritual gifts divide you from other parts of the Body of Christ. Like Paul writes, we each are a different part, of the SAME Body. I will pray however that you open your heart to all that God wants to do with and through your life. To accomplish that, He will often give you special gifts to carry out His work. I pray that you open your heart to His will, and His plan for your life, andnever limit the power of God working through your life. In His love and service, Your friend and brother in Christ, Bill Keller If I can help you in any way you can contact me through my personal email at bkeller@liveprayer.com ***I am excited to let you know that the Liveprayer Daily Devotional is now available via AUDIO each day. Simply go to http://www.liveprayer.com/DailyDevotionalAudio.html ©Copyright 2003, Bill Keller Ministries. 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Brother Bob, I have no idea what the guy is trying to say. Unless the guy can read New Testament Greek: how can he be sure what he is talking about ? I use a Scofield, and a Thompson Bible. I use the cross referances that are provided. I fail to see where Paul wants anyone to worship him. It seems to me that Paul wishes them to follow his example and worship CHRIST. Maybe one of those moron on the supreme court wrote the thing. Or the Senator from NY that is also a preacher. He was saying that NY should not give tax money to a new school started for just gays. He says that the so called bullies should be taken out of the school system. So he must be pro gay. There is no in between. A Christian must either be cold or hot. He can not serve GOD and be for anyone that is living a life that is against GOD'S word. That is what the guy is doing. He will have to answer for it some day. Then again maybe it is some fruit cake that satan is using. Since Satan know the Bible better than any man does: he can conive and twist the word of GOD to his advantage. But if you test what the guy is saying he will be proven wrong. Pappy -----Original Message----- From: "Bob Craig" <rcraig5@cox.net> Sent: Tuesday, August 19, 2003 6:58 PM To: "Bob Craig" <rcraig5@cox.net> Cc: Subject: Unworthy servant IMPORTANT BODY { BACKGROUND: url(http://craigpages3.100megsfree5.com/GIFFile/anger_button.jpg) #996633 fixed no-repeat right top } I have used my "anger_button.jpg" [Right of Text] for this page to indicate my impatience (and yes, ANGER!) with this sort of Email. I didn't ask for this and have no idea who sent it. But if you want to know what divisiveness in the Christian Faith is: -- closely study the following . . . and may God lead YOU to not be deceived! It shames me somewhat to realize that I had formatted nearly all of the Email to post in HTML on my site before realizing how radical this persons view is. I am posting it anyway simply to pass on to you something that should cause you to be very careful whom on the Internet you trust and believe. This man would compare the Apostle Paul and Jesus Christ and try and drive a wedge between them. This individual must have some sin in his/her heart that the Apostle Paul has written about and rather than choose to cast the sin out/away from their life, they would find it easier to simply get others to believe that Paul was anti-Christ in his writings. This is simply ridiculous in every sense of the matter! ~ Bob C URGENT REPENTANCE CALL TO CHRISTIANS. " COME OUT FROM AMONG THEM... LEST YOU TAKE PART IN THEIR SINS AND SHARE IN THEIR PLAGUES" (Revelation 18:4 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NKJV&passage=Revelation+18%3A4&x=13&y=9)). Yeshua (Jesus) of Nazareth says "Be my disciples...all others are thieves and robbers". (John 8:31, 13:35, 10:8 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NKJV&passage=John+8%3A31%2C+13%3A35%2C+10%3A8&x=16&y=7)) The thief and robber Paul says "I beseech you be ye followers of me". (1 Corinthians 4:16 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NKJV&passage=1+Corinthians+4%3A16&x=10&y=3)) NOTE: In this passage the Apostle simply ask that the recipients of this letter to the Corinthians follow his (Paul's) lead in trusting and serving Christ! Not bow down to him as a god! What a nut- case the individual is that sent this Email! Most likely a homosexual or some other mental problem has cause him/her to find a crack in the wall of Scripture to crawl through. "The wise" (Matthew 25:2 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NKJV&passage=Matthew+25%3A2)) [Have no idea what this has to do with the subject!] follow YESHUA (JESUS) THE MESSIAH : "The foolish" follow Paul.. ARE YOU "WISE" or " FOOLISH"???? (Matthew 25 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?passage=MATT%2B25&showfn=on&showxref=on&language=english&version=NKJV&x=11&y=4)) NOTE: I tried to access the following link but had no success. I caution you if you wish to attempt to access the site. There is just something about this site/person that simply isn't right . . . ~ Bob C (mailto:rcraig5@cox.net) CLICK HERE: (not a good link?) http://www.quicksitemaker.com/members/disciples/custom.html (http://www.quicksitemaker.com/members/disciples/custom.html) "NO ONE CAN SERVE TWO MASTERS..." (Matthew 6:24 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NKJV&passage=Matthew+6%3A24&x=14&y=9)) NOTE: Here Jesus is talking about the impossible proposition of serving the wealth of this world while trying to serve Christ as Lord and Master at the same time. "THEY HAVE MISLED MY PEOPLE BY SAYING PEACE WHERE THERE IS NO PEACE" (Ezekiel 13:10 (http://www.biblegateway.com/cgi-bin/bible?language=english&version=NKJV&passage=Ezekiel+13%3A10&x=15&y=10)) ~~Patrick Geaney Unworthy servant and Disciple of Jesus PS: Dear unworthy serv ant, Patrick Geaney . . . Your Email DEFIANTLY exposes you as a completely unworthy servant in every sense of the world. Your little bit of understanding as exposed in this writing has gone to the outer limits of reasonable construct and interpretation of God's Word. I apologize for expressing ANGER above. I will simply close this page with this: "I will earnestly pray for you -- that God, through His Holy Spirit will cause you to search the Scriptures while you "rightly divide the Word of Truth." You need to get help! ~~Bob C (mailto:rcraig5@cox.net) --- Original Message --- From Patrick Geaney disciplesofjesus@hotmail.com (mailto:disciplesofjesus@hotmail.com) To Bob Craig Subject URGENT CALL TO REPENTANCE / FOLLOW JESUS ONLY Date Tue, 19 Aug 2003 14:22:50 (http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html) (http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html) ~Craigs On The WEB http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html (http://members.cox.net/rcraig5/CraigHome.html) http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html (http://members.cox.net/rbcraig5/pageofblessings.html)